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Scarier than Ann Coulter

POSTED BY: RUE
UPDATED: Wednesday, October 3, 2007 17:12
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Tuesday, October 2, 2007 2:40 PM

RUE

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http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/10/02/4272/ Debra Cagan, Deputy Assistant Secretary for Coalition Affairs to Defence Secretary Robert Gates

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Tuesday, October 2, 2007 2:54 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK






SHE'S A MAN BABY!

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Tuesday, October 2, 2007 3:57 PM

BIGDAMNNOBODY


Hate to say it Rue, but Jack's response is exactly what this thread deserves IMHO.

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Tuesday, October 2, 2007 4:25 PM

RUE

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Meh - what can I say ? I saw the picture and it was so striking, so unusual, I just had to share. I mean really, you'll probably not get the opportunity again.

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Tuesday, October 2, 2007 5:20 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


WHOOOOAAAAA! That's some...... person!

Does she (he?) always look like that???

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Tuesday, October 2, 2007 6:25 PM

SOUPCATCHER


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Originally posted by SignyM:
WHOOOOAAAAA! That's some...... person!

Does she (he?) always look like that???


Turns out it is even worse than you think. That's what Ms. Debra Cagan thinks is the appropriate outfit to wear when you're being honored with a medal by the Hungarian Ambassador.
http://www.huembwas.org/News2/56Emb2005.htm
As Gavin, over at Sadly, No! aptly wrote, "Going for the salty, sticky, rubber-Erwin-Rommel-bath-toy look"

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Tuesday, October 2, 2007 6:37 PM

MISSTRESSAHARA


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Wednesday, October 3, 2007 3:30 AM

BIGDAMNNOBODY


Rue's questionable source aside, the best anyone can come up with is misogynistic observations, wow.

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Wednesday, October 3, 2007 5:11 AM

JONGSSTRAW


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Originally posted by BigDamnNobody:
Rue's questionable source aside, the best anyone can come up with is misogynistic observations, wow.


With all due respect....anyone who goes out in public looking like that is inviting finger pointing, mocking, and ridicule.

She looks like she's wearing something that Adam Ant threw out in the trash can 25 years ago. And that hairdo is sooooooo 80's Brigette Neilsen that I'm sure all the transvestites & transsexuals in the upcoming San Fran gay pride and freak show are seething with jealousy

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Wednesday, October 3, 2007 5:24 AM

RUE

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"questionable source"

Search Google images - that's all you'll find. Debra Cagan seems to be camera-shy.

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Wednesday, October 3, 2007 7:02 AM

FREDGIBLET


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Originally posted by BigDamnNobody:
Rue's questionable source aside, the best anyone can come up with is misogynistic observations, wow.



Misogynistic? Did I miss a memo? Since when does saying someone is ugly, looks like a man and has poor fashion sense misogynistic?

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Wednesday, October 3, 2007 7:14 AM

BIGDAMNNOBODY


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Originally posted by fredgiblet:
Misogynistic? Did I miss a memo? Since when does saying someone is ugly, looks like a man and has poor fashion sense misogynistic?


If a male high level diplomat had made the same comments attributed to Ms. Cagen, do you really think his appearance would be the topic of discussion?

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Wednesday, October 3, 2007 7:19 AM

FREDGIBLET


Quote:

Originally posted by BigDamnNobody:
Quote:

Originally posted by fredgiblet:
Misogynistic? Did I miss a memo? Since when does saying someone is ugly, looks like a man and has poor fashion sense misogynistic?


If a male high level diplomat had made the same comments attributed to Ms. Cagen, do you really think his appearance would be the topic of discussion?



If he was ugly enough (granted the bar is lower for men), and/or had that poor of fashion sense? Yes.

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Wednesday, October 3, 2007 10:23 AM

BIGDAMNNOBODY


Quote:

Originally posted by fredgiblet:
If he was ugly enough (granted the bar is lower for men), and/or had that poor of fashion sense? Yes.


So for future reference, in the world of politics, you think style trumps substance or the medium is more important than the message?

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Wednesday, October 3, 2007 10:49 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Well,"Ms. Cagen", she is a dude, right? I mean, that's the one thing we're all in agreement about, isn't it ?



People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss

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Wednesday, October 3, 2007 2:04 PM

MISSTRESSAHARA


Dude looked like a laaady.....lookin' like a maaaaan.

No wonder Aerosmith took that last part out.

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Wednesday, October 3, 2007 2:08 PM

FREDGIBLET


Quote:

Originally posted by BigDamnNobody:
Quote:

Originally posted by fredgiblet:
If he was ugly enough (granted the bar is lower for men), and/or had that poor of fashion sense? Yes.


So for future reference, in the world of politics, you think style trumps substance or the medium is more important than the message?



So for future reference you make sweeping statements about other peoples opinions based off of single instances?

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Wednesday, October 3, 2007 2:10 PM

FREMDFIRMA


"Misogynistic? Did I miss a memo? Since when does saying someone is ugly, looks like a man and has poor fashion sense misogynistic?"

Beats me Fred, but being 3 for 3 on that one myself (salvation army chic, was the phrase thrown at me by a friends daughter recently..lol) can I then accuse the detractors of Misogynism myself ?
*looks up the word*
Oh.. wait...

Erk, nevermind - really tho, all humor aside I care more that someone does their job effectively than what they look like, and sometimes in the name of diplomacy one has to do some crazy things.. shrub looked kinda silly in that one (chinese? i think?) outfit, but at least he had the sense to wear it, right ?

I figure if the hungarians ain't offended, it don't matter none - but sure, we're gonna make fun of her, and if she can't handle some of that, then perhaps diplomacy isn't the career for her.

-F

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Wednesday, October 3, 2007 2:10 PM

LEADB


Quote:

Originally posted by BigDamnNobody:
Quote:

Originally posted by fredgiblet:
If he was ugly enough (granted the bar is lower for men), and/or had that poor of fashion sense? Yes.


So for future reference, in the world of politics, you think style trumps substance or the medium is more important than the message?

How long can you say she's an idiot for what she said and I'm embarrassed to be represented by her for what she says? After you say that, the fashion statement just requires comment.

Regarding her appearance: No comment.

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Wednesday, October 3, 2007 2:45 PM

BIGDAMNNOBODY


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Originally posted by fredgiblet:
So for future reference you make sweeping statements about other peoples opinions based off of single instances?


Yes.

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Wednesday, October 3, 2007 2:54 PM

BIGDAMNNOBODY


Quote:

Originally posted by leadb:
How long can you say she's and idiot for what she said and I'm embarrassed to be represented by her for what she says?


You'd be the first.
Quote:

Originally posted by leadb:
After you say that, the fashion statement just requires comment.


Ms. Cagens appearance / fashion acumen was apparently the whole point of this thread. And here I mistakenly thought it was another bash the present administration thread.

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Wednesday, October 3, 2007 5:12 PM

LEADB


BDN,
Actually, I was so put off by what was attributed to her, it never really registered no one else had commented on content of the article.
I guess you were right, which means I was attempting a thread hi-jack. This is a fashion (or lack thereof) thread.

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