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Plame lawsuit dismissed

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Thursday, July 19, 2007 9:06 AM

BARNSTORMER


http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8QFR71G1&show_article=1

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Thursday, July 19, 2007 9:24 AM

RUE

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/07/19/AR2007
071901395.html?hpid=topnews

"U.S. District Judge John D. Bates dismissed the case on jurisdictional grounds and said he would not express an opinion on the constitutional arguments. "

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Thursday, July 19, 2007 9:26 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


There are two kinds of dismissals: on matters of fact and matters of law. This was a matter of law.

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Thursday, July 19, 2007 9:40 AM

BARNSTORMER


Damn

Your right. The Brietbart article only mentioned it was dismissed, not the reason.

I guess I just assumed it was'nt procedural, and the judge just did the right thing.

Sheesh

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Thursday, July 19, 2007 10:49 AM

DEADLOCKVICTIM




Quote:

"The alleged means by which defendants chose to rebut Mr. Wilson's comments and attack his credibility may have been highly unsavory, " Bates wrote. "But there can be no serious dispute that the act of rebutting public criticism, such as that levied by Mr. Wilson against the Bush administration's handling of prewar foreign intelligence, by speaking with members of the press is within the scope of defendants' duties as high-level Executive Branch officials."


ok, but then there's this...

Quote:

From the U.S. Code Online via GPO Access
[wais.access.gpo.gov]
[Laws in effect as of January 6, 1997]
[Document not affected by Public Laws enacted between
January 6, 1997 and November 30, 1998]
[CITE: 50USC421]

TITLE 50--WAR AND NATIONAL DEFENSE

CHAPTER 15--NATIONAL SECURITY

SUBCHAPTER IV--PROTECTION OF CERTAIN NATIONAL SECURITY INFORMATION
Sec. 421. Protection of identities of certain United States
undercover intelligence officers, agents, informants, and sources
(a) Disclosure of information by persons having or having had access to classified information that identifies covert agent

Whoever, having or having had authorized access to classified
information that identifies a covert agent, intentionally discloses any information identifying such covert agent to any individual not authorized to receive classified information, knowing that the information disclosed so identifies such covert agent and that the United States is taking affirmative measures to conceal such covert agent's intelligence relationship to the United States, shall be fined not more than $50,000 or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.




can you say 'whitewash'... i knew that you could

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Thursday, July 19, 2007 11:02 AM

BARNSTORMER





Judge Dismisses Plame Lawsuit

By Carol Leonnig
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, July 19, 2007; 3:30 PM

A federal judge today dismissed a lawsuit filed by former CIA officer Valerie Plame and her husband against Vice President Cheney and top administration officials over the disclosure of Plame's name and covert status to the media.

U.S. District Judge John D. Bates said that Cheney and White House aides cannot be held liable for the disclosure of information about Plame in the summer of 2003 while they were trying to rebut criticism of the administration's war efforts levied by her husband, former ambassador Joseph C. Wilson IV. The judge said such efforts were certainly part of the officials' scope of normal duties.


"The alleged tortious conduct, namely the disclosure of Mrs. Wilson's status as a covert operative, was incidental to the kind of conduct that defendants were employed to perform," Bates wrote in an opinion released this afternoon.

Bates also ruled that the court lacked the power to award damages for public disclosure of private information about Plame. The judge said that was because Plame and Wilson had failed to exhaust other remedies in seeking compensation from appropriate federal agencies for the alleged privacy violations.

The Wilsons' lawsuit claimed that Cheney, his chief of staff, I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, senior White House adviser Karl Rove and former deputy secretary of state Richard L. Armitage violated the couple's privacy and constitutional rights by participating in discussions that led to Plame's identity being publicly revealed. They claimed the leaks to reporters were an effort to retaliate against Wilson.

Plame's identity was disclosed in a syndicated column in July 2003, days after Wilson publicly accused the Bush administration of twisting intelligence Wilson gathered on a mission for the CIA. He said the White House sought to exaggerate Iraq's nuclear threat and justify an invasion.

Libby was convicted in March of lying to a grand jury and FBI agents investigating the leak, and was sentenced in June to 2 1/2 years in prison. President Bush commuted his sentence earlier this month, eliminating the prison time.



So if I read this right, the case has been dissmissed because they have no case against the administration.

So yes, the Judge did rule correctly.

The judge also states that he did not have the jurisdiction to award damages for the disclosure of Plames personal information (not outing her, just personal information). And that only because they have to many other avenues they could go thru.

So, all that "assasinate Rove, Bush, Cheney, then mutilate them and send them to prison for hanging" crap was just more.....Well, Crap.

I'm glad this has finally been cleared up.




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Thursday, July 19, 2007 2:03 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


For all you dupes who were siding with Plame and Wilson for their attempted coup of the Bush/Cheney administration......




Justice wins out - ALWAYS.



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Thursday, July 19, 2007 2:27 PM

FREMDFIRMA


If so, you and yours better take out lynching insurance.

Just sayin

-F

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Thursday, July 19, 2007 2:43 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
If so, you and yours better take out lynching insurance.

Just sayin

-F



If there's any of that, I'll be on the givin' side, not the gettin' side.

People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Thursday, July 19, 2007 3:38 PM

SKYWALKEN


To Valerie Plame I have this say...to quote Cindy Sheehan...

good riddance, attention whore.

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Thursday, July 19, 2007 4:03 PM

RUE

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Rap,

Dude, if you have ANYthing to back up your rhetoric, this might be the time to post it. Otherwise you're headed off beyond PN, who has the sense to post links and quotes.
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
attempted coup of the Bush/Cheney administration......



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Thursday, July 19, 2007 5:25 PM

FREMDFIRMA


Ya think so, do ya Rap ?

Because this is to be asserted in general of men, that they are ungrateful, fickle, false, cowardly, covetous, and as long as you succeed they are yours entirely; they will offer you their blood, property, life, and children, as is said above, when the need is far distant; but when it approaches they turn against you.

It would do one well to learn something about history in general, the mob generally doesn't reward a debacle of (real or percieved) complete and total failure with love and adulation, rather it's opposite I would say.

-F

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Friday, July 20, 2007 12:53 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
Ya think so, do ya Rap ?

Because this is to be asserted in general of men, that they are ungrateful, fickle, false, cowardly, covetous, and as long as you succeed they are yours entirely; they will offer you their blood, property, life, and children, as is said above, when the need is far distant; but when it approaches they turn against you.

It would do one well to learn something about history in general, the mob generally doesn't reward a debacle of (real or percieved) complete and total failure with love and adulation, rather it's opposite I would say.

-F



T'wasn't I who first brought up the 'lynching' threat. Which is funny, because we're always sold that it's the folks on the Left who deplore violence so much, except when it's THEM in charge. Gotta love the irony. The fact of matter is, it's only a fringe side group of folks who'd get so worked up as to even evoke something so drastic and savage as 'lynching' anyone supporting this administration. This 'mob' you speak of is nothing more than a tiny fraction of mal contents who amount to NOTHING. That you think I'd fret over any 'mob ' of idiots so moved against this issue, or any remotely like it, is laughable. You're out numbered 10 to 1, if not by more.

Scooter not going to jail. Get over it.
Plame case thrown out. Get over it.
There's nothing more here, you lose. Get over it.

People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Friday, July 20, 2007 2:01 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
Ya think so, do ya Rap ?

Because this is to be asserted in general of men, that they are ungrateful, fickle, false, cowardly, covetous, and as long as you succeed they are yours entirely; they will offer you their blood, property, life, and children, as is said above, when the need is far distant; but when it approaches they turn against you.

It would do one well to learn something about history in general, the mob generally doesn't reward a debacle of (real or percieved) complete and total failure with love and adulation, rather it's opposite I would say.

-F



T'wasn't I who first brought up the 'lynching' threat. Which is funny, because we're always sold that it's the folks on the Left who deplore violence so much, except when it's THEM in charge. Gotta love the irony. The fact of matter is, it's only a fringe side group of folks who'd get so worked up as to even evoke something so drastic and savage as 'lynching' anyone supporting this administration. This 'mob' you speak of is nothing more than a tiny fraction of mal contents who amount to NOTHING. That you think I'd fret over any 'mob ' of idiots so moved against this issue, or any remotely like it, is laughable. You're out numbered 10 to 1, if not by more.

Scooter not going to jail. Get over it.
Plame case thrown out. Get over it.
There's nothing more here, you lose. Get over it.

People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "


These Leftist twits will only be satisfied if Bush & Cheney are blown up in a terror attack, or assassinated by some lunatic anarchist, or put in prison. These options to remedy their enemies are the same as Al Qaida's, their brothers in arms. Some of these hopelessly hateful, and fatalistic cretins may actually be able to rise above their miserable angst-filled, agonizing Bush-hate derangement disease syndrome to go on some day to lead relatively productive lives. There is some hope, I believe, for our mentally challenged brothers and sisters after all...but God forbid the Republicans win the election in 2008, then the emotionally degenerative disease they have will forever control their lives...many will just jump off roofs and bridges, many will flee to Canada or France; but most will grind their teeth with bitter hatred and swear to keep doing everything they can to destroy America so their heroic Dem idols can swoop in for 2012 and save the day again from the demonic Repubs....just like the new Congress has done this year...well almost.

Today a federal judge said: forget it. Judge John Bates said:

"There can be no serious dispute that the act of rebutting public criticism, such as that levied by Mr. Wilson against the Bush administration's handling of prewar foreign intelligence, by speaking with members of the press is within the scope of defendants' duties as high-level executive branch officials"

"In other words, the judge said to Wilson, hey, you took on the president and the vice president; they have a right to fight back. And one of the ways they are allowed to legally respond is to inform the public that the vice president of the United States did not send Joe Wilson to Niger to investigate Saddam Hussein's nuke bomb quest. It was Wilson's CIA agent wife who did it. Case closed."


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Friday, July 20, 2007 3:26 AM

FREMDFIRMA


See, yet more proof you don't have a clue, Rap.

I'm not a rightie OR a leftist, and by choice, I'd see every single one of ya on either side swingin from a rope without a teary eye in sight.

Watchin both little ratpacks of you insane, authoritarian, clueless little gits massacre each other amuses me for the most part, save for the inherent problem that from either set of you fucking lunatics, my life, rights, and future seem to lay in the path of your collateral damage.

By all means, slaughter each other, PLEASE, I implore and encourage you, make the world a better place by that much, but keep your mess off my lawn, if you would.

And no, what you took as a 'threat' is simply me pointing out to you that your chosen side is standing on the train tracks and pretending not to hear the steam whistle, historically, when politicos have acted in such a fashion - BAD SHIT FOLLOWS, and you might not wanna get caught up in it, even rats have the sense to jump off a sinking boat... but then, all too often, humans do not.

Makes ya wonder who's smarter sometimes.
Anyhows, it's *your* fight, keep it off MY fekkin lawn, yes ?

-Frem
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Friday, July 20, 2007 11:07 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

- F wrote:

I'm not a rightie OR a leftist, and by choice, I'd see every single one of ya on either side swingin from a rope without a teary eye in sight.




So, much like a dividing line, you're yellah and stand firmly in the middle ? Either that, or you're simply road kill.



People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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