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PirateNews, please don't stop.

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Wednesday, June 28, 2006 12:04 PM

SERGEANTX


Not much to my request. PN, please give it a break, you've had more than your share of cheap attention. Not that it matters to you, but you've ruined RWE for me. Maybe that was your intention. I come here very seldom lately because any good stuff that does get posted is washed away below your constant waterfall of lurid junk.

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

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Wednesday, June 28, 2006 12:24 PM

PDCHARLES

What happened? He see your face?


I echo this request with an inexorable fervor...

not even amusing to poke at him... 'cause I am sure this will be filled with many people using the long, PN-like adjectives to describe his endless jibberish.

Ok... really... my scroll finger hurts


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Wednesday, June 28, 2006 1:06 PM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!


SergeantX,

Please don't let PN keep you away.

Rue

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Wednesday, June 28, 2006 1:23 PM

MISSTRESSAHARA


I third that request, it's become rediculous.

I'm afraid to voice my opinion on this thread.

If I'm a bitch, then life just got interesting

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Wednesday, June 28, 2006 1:29 PM

SOUPCATCHER


I agree wholeheartedly.


And my scroll wheel is wearing out.


And, PN, you already have a platform for your diatribes. It's your own website. There's no need to duplicate here what you have there. If you feel that something you've worked on at your site would add to the discussion (note: discussion, not information dump) Post. A. Link. Not. The. Whole. Damn. Thing.

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Wednesday, June 28, 2006 2:28 PM

RIVER6213


PirateNews,

I'm not sure if you mean well or just messing with us but your posts usally contains way too much information and most of that information is BS. You put shock value photos up, and you go one and on, and on. Its stops being amusing and starts to becoming annoying.

This is the real world event section of the forum in which real world events are discussed or debated. It is not blog.com.

River


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Wednesday, June 28, 2006 2:54 PM

HIXIE129


PirateNews


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Wednesday, June 28, 2006 5:22 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by SergeantX:
I come here very seldom lately







We need you Chrisisall

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Wednesday, June 28, 2006 5:27 PM

RIVER6213


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Wednesday, June 28, 2006 5:41 PM

CAUSAL


Hear! Hear! Give it a break, PN.

And let me third the request for you not to go away, Sarge.

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Wednesday, June 28, 2006 7:16 PM

MISSTRESSAHARA


The thing of it is he's obviously a troll. He should be banned and his posts sent to the garbage heap otherwise known as troll country.

If I'm a bitch, then life just got interesting

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Wednesday, June 28, 2006 8:02 PM

CHOO1701


How about entering a discussion on FIREFLY and SERENITY at one piont or another? Come on, its fun. And shiny. And you might be respected more.



and Hello Sarge. Another famous Browncoat i've never heard of before

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Wednesday, June 28, 2006 10:55 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


Don't. Don't. Don't stop.

Quote:

Originally posted by SergeantX:

Not much to my request. PN, please give it a break, you've had more than your share of cheap attention. Not that it matters to you, but you've ruined RWE for me. Maybe that was your intention. I come here very seldom lately because any good stuff that does get posted is washed away below your constant waterfall of lurid junk.

SergeantX



Dear Sarge,

Poor baby. Are you suicidal? Ha ha ha! JUST DO IT.

Otherwise STFU and get back to reality. I notice none of you trolls care to discuss FF, nor reality. Does that seem right to you?

I do appreciate the compliment of naming threads for little ole me. Sounds like a fanclub.

Quote:


Twenty-Five Ways To Suppress Truth: The Rules of Disinformation

Includes The 8 Traits of A Disinformationalist


by H. Michael Sweeney
www.MKZine.com
Spring/Summer 2003

5. Sidetrack opponents with name calling and ridicule. This is also known as the primary 'attack the messenger' ploy, though other methods qualify as variants of that approach. Associate opponents with unpopular titles such as 'kooks', 'right-wing', 'liberal', 'left-wing', 'terrorists', 'conspiracy buffs', 'radicals', 'militia', 'racists', 'religious fanatics', 'sexual deviates', and so forth. This makes others shrink from support out of fear of gaining the same label, and you avoid dealing with issues.

6. Hit and Run. In any public forum, make a brief attack of your opponent or the opponent position and then scamper off before an answer can be fielded, or simply ignore any answer. This works extremely well in Internet and letters-to-the-editor environments where a steady stream of new identities can be called upon without having to explain criticism, reasoning -- simply make an accusation or other attack, never discussing issues, and never answering any subsequent response, for that would dignify the opponent's viewpoint.

9. Play Dumb. No matter what evidence or logical argument is offered, avoid discussing issues except with denials they have any credibility, make any sense, provide any proof, contain or make a point, have logic, or support a conclusion. Mix well for maximum effect.

17. Change the subject. Usually in connection with one of the other ploys listed here, find a way to side-track the discussion with abrasive or controversial comments in hopes of turning attention to a new, more manageable topic. This works especially well with companions who can 'argue' with you over the new topic and polarize the discussion arena in order to avoid discussing more key issues.

18. Emotionalize, Antagonize, and Goad Opponents. If you can't do anything else, chide and taunt your opponents and draw them into emotional responses which will tend to make them look foolish and overly motivated, and generally render their material somewhat less coherent. Not only will you avoid discussing the issues in the first instance, but even if their emotional response addresses the issue, you can further avoid the issues by then focusing on how 'sensitive they are to criticism.'

www.whale.to/m/disin.html
www.911review.org/Wiki/RulesOfDisinformation.shtml
www.whale.to/b/sweeney.html

Examples & response:
www.proparanoid.net/truth.htm



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Zoe: My other husband was in The Matrix, Dear.

Quote:


Abbie Bernstein:

Do you believe a government can be shamed into or out of what it's doing by the actions of individuals?

Joss Whedon:

The idea was to say that people can make a difference, they can show the wrongs that are being done. They can speak out against them and make people aware of them. They can even create giant scandals. Sometimes they can topple governments. The point is that the truth is always more important than the power structure, and whether you make a dent or not, the fact that you succeeded in trying is a victory.

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Thursday, June 29, 2006 2:41 AM

DEEPGIRL187


See, this is what Sergeant was talking about.

I rarely post on RWE, mostly because of people like PN. It starts to get really unpleasant posting an honest opinion when trolls (not just PN) start to shoot you down with incoherent jibberish. Agressive debate is fine and all, but not when it starts to become bogged down with juvenile sniping. As you can see, many of us have had enough of it. If you can't be civilized about posting, find somewhere else to voice your ideas, somewhere that will accept it.

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This is my story...

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Thursday, June 29, 2006 2:49 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by piratenews:

Are you suicidal?

How are you feeling, PN?
I worry about you. That question seemed odd, it had no precursor, are you feeling suicidal? Maybe just down? Is that why you're so antagonistic?
Message me privately, maybe I can help. You don't have to walk this road alone. Others have crawled out of depression, and been able to finally connect. Won't you try?

No?

Then please,
sod off.

Fuzzy-wuzzy psychotheraputic Chrisisall

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Thursday, June 29, 2006 2:52 AM

FUTUREMRSFILLION


I too am sick of PN.

Perhaps if everyone just stops posting when he comes into a discussion - he will give up and go away.



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Thursday, June 29, 2006 5:42 AM

HERO


Quote:

Originally posted by FutureMrsFIllion:
I too am sick of PN.


I agree. I really and trully agree with the notion expressed by every person (except PN) who has posted this thread. Now how often can we all agree on any single thing. Rich, poor, conservative, liberal, pro-war, anti-war, pro-Bush, anti-Bush, treehuggers, big Oil, Michael Moore, and Rush Limbaugh...by God we all can finally come together with one voice and dislike PN.

Part of me wonders if we should celebrate PN for the gift he has given us.

From now on the only PirateNews I want to hear needs to involve Johnny Depp.

H

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Thursday, June 29, 2006 6:21 AM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!


I just scroll. I don't even read the posts enough to get an inkling. So I don't feel a need to 'fix' them. They do clutter up the threads, though.
Quote:

Originally posted by deepgirl187:
See, this is what Sergeant was talking about.

I rarely post on RWE, mostly because of people like PN. It starts to get really unpleasant posting an honest opinion when trolls (not just PN) start to shoot you down with incoherent jibberish. Agressive debate is fine and all, but not when it starts to become bogged down with juvenile sniping. As you can see, many of us have had enough of it. If you can't be civilized about posting, find somewhere else to voice your ideas, somewhere that will accept it.

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This is my story...


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Thursday, June 29, 2006 11:17 AM

CHOO1701


Sorry dude, but you need to be Sent to Coventry! (somepeople might call it blanking.) Post no interst in his posts, and then he might go away.


Bye PN.
Have fun.
So long, fair well...
Don't call us...
good ridence



Gorramit FMF. You got there first....
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ITES RULE!!!!

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Thursday, June 29, 2006 11:58 AM

RUXTON


Actually, we all don't disagree with PN. Much if not most of what he posts is FACT, easily proven if you follow his links. I actually see some grand humor in his posts.

But of course my posting here will, as always, kill this thread -- so it really doesn't matter.

I'm gone, chillun. Be back in six months or so, perhaps never; unless my prediction for 1 July holds true, in which case you'll hear about it.

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Thursday, June 29, 2006 12:16 PM

BROOKLYNBROWNCOAT


Quote:

Originally posted by FutureMrsFIllion:
I too am sick of PN.

Perhaps if everyone just stops posting when he comes into a discussion - he will give up and go away.




wow, someone less popular than me!! banish him to troll contry, i'll deal with him

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Thursday, June 29, 2006 1:25 PM

CITIZEN


I've said it before and I'll say it again:

If I point out a cloud and call it a glargon death fleet here to steal are Women and Rape our donkeys that doesn't mean the cloud doesn't exist...



More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
And as you know, these are open forums, you're able to come and listen to what I have to say.

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Thursday, June 29, 2006 4:01 PM

HKCAVALIER


Quote:

Originally posted by Ruxton:
Actually, we all don't disagree with PN. Much if not most of what he posts is FACT, easily proven if you follow his links. I actually see some grand humor in his posts.

But of course my posting here will, as always, kill this thread -- so it really doesn't matter.

I'm gone, chillun. Be back in six months or so, perhaps never; unless my prediction for 1 July holds true, in which case you'll hear about it.


Ruxton! You're still here! Ah, good. Dang, it's taking a long ass time, ain't it, Rux?

I'm sorta kinda taken aback by the "will of the people" on this thread--reminds me of a past life I lived in Salem, Mass a couple hundred years ago. This is not the place for censorship and ostricization. And why scapegoat such an easy mark? Has he really succeeded in driving folks away? Shame on you for letting his actions control you like that!

I hate 'a' say it folks, but it wouldn't bother you if it weren't just a teensy bit true. No, it wouldn't! You'd all just dismiss him and scroll on by. Yes, he can be nasty and some of his oppinions are pretty objectionable, but golly, they're nothing compared to some of the very mainstream hate we've seen on this board. And not to get too fanboi sentimental on y'all--but gorram it!--PN obviously loves Firefly and Joss Whedon! He's a Browncoat whether you like it or not!

That said, I do like SoupCatcher's idea about posting links rather than filling up the threads with pictures our little site can barely handle. Some folks here still have dial-up and the really long, picture heavy threads can take. For. Ever. To load. So how's that for a compromise: y'all can take off your silly puritan garb, and PirateNews can post more links and fewer pictures and WALLSOFTEXT? How 'bout it, PirateNews?

HKCavalier

Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.

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Thursday, June 29, 2006 4:16 PM

CITIZEN


I don't think there's even a teensy weensy bit of truth in me being an evil baby killing homosexual Nazi, thanks HK.

PN shouldn't be on these boards, he should be in a hospital where he can get the help he needs and not trying to get Jews and other people he's decided are evil murdered.

I find the idea we should tolerate the mad ravings of an insane psychotic fasicst in our midst objectionable.



More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
And as you know, these are open forums, you're able to come and listen to what I have to say.

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Thursday, June 29, 2006 4:24 PM

HARDWARE


Well thank goodness somebody else has seen the Glargon death fleet!

And there's finally a burning issue that I can stand shoulder to shoulder with Hero on.

Will wonders never cease? I don't know. But I wish PN would.

The more I get to know people the more I like my dogs.

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Thursday, June 29, 2006 4:38 PM

HKCAVALIER


Quote:

Originally posted by citizen:
I don't think there's even a teensy weensy bit of truth in me being an evil baby killing homosexual Nazi, thanks HK.

PN shouldn't be on these boards, he should be in a hospital where he can get the help he needs and not trying to get Jews and other people he's decided are evil murdered.

I find the idea we should tolerate the mad ravings of an insane psychotic fasicst in our midst objectionable.

But tolerate such folks is exactly what we need to do in a free society, ya big goof! Lest we become insane psychotic fascists in our zeal to quarentine insane psychotic fascists. God damn, people, PirateNews has got y'all by the tail!

HKCavalier

Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.

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Thursday, June 29, 2006 8:39 PM

SOUPCATCHER


Quote:

Originally posted by HKCavalier:
But tolerate such folks is exactly what we need to do in a free society, ya big goof! Lest we become insane psychotic fascists in our zeal to quarentine insane psychotic fascists. God damn, people, PirateNews has got y'all by the tail!

HKCavalier


I hear what you're saying.

Let me try to articulate my peeve. It's like trying to have a conversation with someone while their kid is running circles around you, tugging on your sleeve, kicking your shin, asking you questions, and saying bad words just to get a reaction. Sure some of it might be cute, but it quickly loses its luster.

Maybe I'm misinterpreting PN's motivations for his long posts. What I see him doing is looking for a platform to spread his racist drivel. Racists, like telemarketers, use people's good nature to their advantage.

What I don't see him doing is looking to engage in a dialogue. He's delivering sermons. There's nothing wrong with that. But there's better ways to do it than to insert pages and pages of your sermon into each and every thread. Using the blog feature or quoting short excerpts and providing a link are both great alternatives.

If I wanted a sermon, I'd go to church (although I shudder to think about the congregation that would hire PN as it's pastor) If I wanted to read what PN thought about the British-Commie-aw crap I can't remember everyone involved-conspiracy, I'd go to his website. If I want to read what fireflyfans think about a particular Real World Event I come here.

I don't think PN should be banned. But I think SergeantX's original request is spot on. This is a community. One member of that community is engaging in behavior that detracts from the experience of other community members. A request to modify that behavior is perfectly legit. A demand to modify that behavior is not.

However, I think PN might see this as - rather than a diverse community with widely divergent view points - a fertile field to spread his manifesto and line up some recruits.

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Thursday, June 29, 2006 8:46 PM

PIRATEJENNY


Quote:

Originally posted by SergeantX:
Not much to my request. PN, please give it a break, you've had more than your share of cheap attention. Not that it matters to you, but you've ruined RWE for me. Maybe that was your intention. I come here very seldom lately because any good stuff that does get posted is washed away below your constant waterfall of lurid junk.

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock



You guys really need to leave P.N alone for some who claim not to like his postings , they sure do be in his threads with something to say..I think you guys like P.N's post if you didn't you wouldn't constantly make him the focus of your topic. I defend his right to post, wether I agree with everything or not, it takes all types to make the world turn, thats what makes life interesting.

keep up the good work P.N I'm actually interested in what you have to say, and besides I like the effect you have on certain posters

Never give up ..Never surrender!!lol


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Thursday, June 29, 2006 9:14 PM

CITIZEN


Quote:

Originally posted by HKCavalier:
But tolerate such folks is exactly what we need to do in a free society, ya big goof! Lest we become insane psychotic fascists in our zeal to quarentine insane psychotic fascists. God damn, people, PirateNews has got y'all by the tail!

You're going too far, the logical conclusion to your argument is closing down mental health facilities and prisons, hey if the inmates murder someone their just expressing themselves and this is a free society after all.

There are limits even to freedom of speech, if someone is standing on the corner of a road screaming at everyone telling them Jews are evil and must die and threatening random passersby then frankly they have stepped over the line of what you can reasonably expect anyone to tolerate.

You're not advocating allowing PirateNews his right to free speech, he already has that on his website, you're advocating that in a free society we should all invite him round to tea.

Lest you forget while defending PirateNews's rights: we all have rights to you know.

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Thursday, June 29, 2006 9:18 PM

CITIZEN


Quote:

Originally posted by piratejenny:
Oh please you guys need to leave P.N alone for some who claim not to like his postings , they sure do be in his threads with something to say..I think you guys like P.N's post if you didn't you wouldn't constantly make him the focus of your topic

No we don't, he does it himself to massage his ego and have a soap box to extend his racist hate.



More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
And as you know, these are open forums, you're able to come and listen to what I have to say.

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Thursday, June 29, 2006 9:28 PM

PIRATEJENNY


Quote:

.No we don't, he does it himself to massage his ego and have a soap box to extend his racist hate.




you do have a point, has anyone ever asked P.N what he has against Jews and gays, I'm just wondering..

Some of the stuff P.N says makes me cringe, but at the same time the way he words it, its funny too.(the humor gets me) which takes the sting out it. for some reason and I know this is weird, but it doesn't really come off as mean spirted,even though its wrong, and he does seem to be genuinely concerned!! I tend to ignore the flaming and just look at the information that he's presenting.[l] which happens to be very informative and interesting despite what the naysayers an narrow minded think!!

c'mon you have to admit commie, Nazi jew is sort of like an oxymoron it just sounds funny!!.


Also I think thats a bunch of B.S about P.N keeping people away from the RWD...

Nobody is stopping anyone from voicing their opinion or starting threads..if they are staying away its not because of P.N and his post.

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Thursday, June 29, 2006 9:56 PM

OLDENGLANDDRY


We ask this question of him constantly and get the same ranting replies. Along with the same links, photos, etc.
There is a seed of truth in what he posts (after all, we all know that our respective governments are screwing us over), the objection of most people is the WAY he does it.
I have no great love for the state of Israel but that does'nt mean that all Jews are Satanic genocidal maniacs.
I have no great confidence in modern medicine but that does'nt mean that all doctors are trying to murder me.
Unfortunately this thread has given PN exactly what he wants from us: attention.
If he just posted a link and said "hey, this is interesting, go take a look" it would'nt get half the responses he does now.
Fait acompli.

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Thursday, June 29, 2006 10:07 PM

PIRATEJENNY


Quote:

There is a seed of truth in what he posts


I just have to state there is more then a seed of truth in the stuff that P.N post, actually there is alot of truth in some of the stuff he post, which is one of the main reasons why I like and enjoy his threads!!..I think this is what pisses some people off.

Quote:

objection of most people is the WAY he does it.

I have no great love for the state of Israel but that does'nt mean that all Jews are Satanic genocidal maniacs.
I have no great confidence in modern medicine but that does'nt mean that all doctors are trying to murder me.





I can only speak for myself, but I'm thinking thats why it's funny to me. his perspective on some things can be viewed by some as extreme, and some of his wording objectionable, its like what choice do you have except to find the humor in it. Sometimes I think P.N represents his post in that manner to give it a very dramatic feel. you know to make it colorful. Which is why I think some find his threads so irresistable even though they claim not to have an interest in what he's saying.

Its like a car crash, you don't want to look but you just can't help yourself.

( P.N just wants to get the info out there) I totally understand that and commend him for it. his intentions are honorable and good even if he isn't )

I find it very interesting!!, and entertaining and we need that because the world is crazy enough!!

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Thursday, June 29, 2006 11:43 PM

HKCAVALIER


Quote:

Originally posted by citizen:
Quote:

Originally posted by HKCavalier:
But tolerate such folks is exactly what we need to do in a free society, ya big goof! Lest we become insane psychotic fascists in our zeal to quarentine insane psychotic fascists. God damn, people, PirateNews has got y'all by the tail!

You're going too far, the logical conclusion to your argument is closing down mental health facilities and prisons, hey if the inmates murder someone their just expressing themselves and this is a free society after all.

There are limits even to freedom of speech, if someone is standing on the corner of a road screaming at everyone telling them Jews are evil and must die and threatening random passersby then frankly they have stepped over the line of what you can reasonably expect anyone to tolerate.

You're not advocating allowing PirateNews his right to free speech, he already has that on his website, you're advocating that in a free society we should all invite him round to tea.

Lest you forget while defending PirateNews's rights: we all have rights to you know.

Criminy, Citizen, this is a g.d. internet forum, any logic of my statement extends to this li'l cyber-community and no further. I'm not advocating anything about "mental health institutions" or "prison inmates." Don't you know me better than that by now? I'm simply advocating that we not tell somebody to shut up and go away, because that would reflect badly on us freedom-loving Firefly fans; our actions here, I think, oughta reflect our values and maybe even our best selves.

I consider this little sandbox a place to practice benevolence and personal integrity. It's easy to do that when the people we're dealing with have similar values to our own, it's harder when they don't. PirateNews harms you not at all and cannot and will not ever. Grab a little perspective, will ya? Trying to silence him makes you look small.

"Invite him round for tea?" Nothing of the kind. This here's a public internet forum. This ain't your house, and nobody's inviting anyone anywhere. What gives you more right to post here than PirateNews?

And why the heck you pickin' a fight with me, anyway, Citizen?

HKCavalier

Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.

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Thursday, June 29, 2006 11:51 PM

CHOO1701


Hey PJ, are you and PN related in anyway shape or form? Just curious with the whole "Pirate..." name thing going on...

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Friday, June 30, 2006 2:03 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

I think this is what pisses some people off.



There's a view that if a post pisses folks off, it MUST be true. And often, that is the case. However, being inane, incoherent, absurd and over the top by posting a sack of llama crap of conspiracy nonsense ALSO tends to piss folks off.

If there's a way to ban PN or simply move his threads to Troll Country, I'm all for it.

People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Friday, June 30, 2006 2:41 AM

FUTUREMRSFILLION


HK

Were he posting about his love of Firefly or Joss there would be no issue. Were he engaging in debate, again there would be no problem. However, his posts are full of hate and are only meant to incite.

I respect the right of the Ku Klux Klan to engage in free speech. Doesn't mean I have to go to the march and certainly doesn't mean I shouldn't do everything in my power to kick them out of my town.

Hate mongerers need not apply.

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Friday, June 30, 2006 2:57 AM

FUTUREMRSFILLION


Buckaroo Banzai would kick PirateNews behind Hong Kong Cavalier.

Pirate News knows exactly what he is doing, as stated by someone else, he has his own website to spew this stuff. He doesn't need to do it here.

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Friday, June 30, 2006 3:13 AM

CITIZEN


HK:
I'm not trying to pick a fight with you, but I take issue with the idea that we should treat PN better than he would ever consider treating anyone else at all times.

PN would be Hitler if he was in charge of a country; I have no doubt in my mind. PirateNews uses every trick in the fascist’s cookbook and talks just like the man when Hitler had lost his power. He's a dictator without a Dictatorship.

PN turns up in the thread and that's it, time to leave because the previous conversation is over, it's PN crazy time now. He adds nothing but hate and incitement in the real world is not tolerated with "well we have to allow all viewpoints" so why here? He’s ruining the site for many, largely on purpose, why must we tolerate that? PN’s rights are more important than everyone else’s because PN’s the only person not willing to compromise?

We send trolls to Troll country and PirateNews is, essentially a Troll. So why should we treat him better? What makes this Troll so special?

And that is why I have more right to post here than PirateNews, I post here inorder to interact with my friends, other intelligent people and generally contribute. I may play rough sometimes but it is not why I come here.

PirateNews on the other hand comes here to sow discord, he comes here to spread hate, he comes here to harm us, by driving posters away, making it impossible to carry on a discussion and leaving only those who will suck up to him behind. He wishes to destroy this forum and remake it into the "make PN feel like a bigshot" forum.

This isn't merely a freedom of speech issue, PirateNews is a sociopath, sociopaths are locked up when they act in a socipathic manner, PirateNews is acting in a sociopathic manner, our only recourse would be to remove him from this forum in the same way a criminal is removed from society. If it makes you feel better we can give him a sentence after which he can come back, and if he then re-offends we'll give him another sentence.

Treat others how you want to be treated, fair enough PNs shown us how he wants to be treated, perhaps we should oblige him.



More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
And as you know, these are open forums, you're able to come and listen to what I have to say.

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Friday, June 30, 2006 3:22 AM

SERGEANTX


Quote:

Originally posted by HKCavalier:
I'm sorta kinda taken aback by the "will of the people" on this thread--reminds me of a past life I lived in Salem, Mass a couple hundred years ago. This is not the place for censorship and ostricization. And why scapegoat such an easy mark? Has he really succeeded in driving folks away? Shame on you for letting his actions control you like that!...



Hmmm, I'll always cheer for arguments against censorship. Apparently I misrepresented my intent. I'm just asking for a little common courtesy. If his posts were of reasonable length and frequency, and didn't load up my bandwidth with photos, I would have no complaint. I might even read them.

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

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Friday, June 30, 2006 3:55 AM

HERO


Quote:

Originally posted by piratejenny:
you do have a point, has anyone ever asked P.N what he has against Jews and gays, I'm just wondering..


I don't think we've ever really asked him. I would...but then he would answer and nobody wants that.

I suspect that several issues are involved but that they mostly boil down to his needing to blame a higher power for his lot in life. He is a failure or is mired in mediocracy and instead of taking personal responsibilty he sees a "grand conspiracy" to keep PirateNews from being the man he was born to be. And he probably has a small penis. I've seen it a million times...er...his type, not his small penis. Jews, the Man, illegals, gays, the rich, the CIA, all scapegoats for personal disappointment or percieved injustice. Medication can help...

Edited to add: Or maybe they really are all out to get him (literally just him)...wouldn't that be ironical? The ICAPN (International Conspiracy Against PirateNews an organization headed by Queen Elizabeth and her gay-jewish-nazi minions, even I'd sign up, just to get the newsletter).

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Friday, June 30, 2006 5:13 AM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!


After all this discussion of PN I feel I should read his stuff. And if I did, I'd probably take exception to what by all accounts is hate speech. But I've already tried, really tried, and I just can't get past the first few sentences.

Scroll, scroll, scroll your mouse,
gently down the screen.
Merrily, merrily, merrily merrily,
Pirate's unheard scream.

I believe PN has been significantly screwed over. And that he lacks the tools to figure out who and how. That's why he finds conspiracies everywhere. And there's probably a psychologocal component. You don't have to be actively hallucinating to be psychologically disabled. OCD and age-onset paranoia immediately come to mind as two examples. Even though they are 'merely' thought disorders, they are still disorders.

I've mentioned to PN that I'd like to hear his story, but so far he hasn't come forward.

Anyway, b/c of what seems to be hate speech, and his site-disabling posts, he probably should be isolated in troll country.


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Friday, June 30, 2006 5:40 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by HKCavalier:
Trying to silence him makes you look small.


I think it's the anti-Jew rants that put me off, anything meaningful or funny just goes out the window for me when he starts on that.
Then there's the anti-gay stuff.

Sorry, it's not easy for me to tolerate intolerance.

The Incredible Shrinking Chrisisall

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Friday, June 30, 2006 5:54 AM

SHADOWFLY


Seems the high and mighty here have decided to jump on the weak-minded to justify their own issues when we all know that deep down inside they are just as bigoted and confused.

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Friday, June 30, 2006 6:03 AM

CITIZEN


Yes ShadowFly, but we'll try not to judge you for it.



More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
And as you know, these are open forums, you're able to come and listen to what I have to say.

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Friday, June 30, 2006 6:05 AM

HKCAVALIER


Heya Chris!

Hey, I'm really perplexed about something and you're just the man to set me straight! Chris, what draws you in? What compels you to read him past the first few lines? We all of us internet habituees learn to filter garbage and move on--what is it about PN's rants that won't let you do that? If what he writes is garbage, what makes it such interesting garbage? What is it about this profoundly disempowered individual that makes really sensible people like you and Citizen grant him soooooo much power?

And on a totally unrelated tangent: how does one private message someone on this board? Some posts I've read recently imply that such is possible and I have long wanted to correspond with the likes of you and Rue and SignyM more directly than this board affords. You know, how's Mrs. Isall and all the little Isalls doing these days?

HKCavalier

Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.

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Friday, June 30, 2006 6:19 AM

MAVOURNEEN


Quote:

Originally posted by HKCavalier:

And on a totally unrelated tangent: how does one private message someone on this board? Some posts I've read recently imply that such is possible and I have long wanted to correspond with the likes of you and Rue and SignyM more directly than this board affords. You know, how's Mrs. Isall and all the little Isalls doing these days?

HKCavalier




Go to the person's profile page and on the left hand side of the screen you'll see a little area to send them a message. Your message will be sent to the email account they used to sign up to this board. Easy Peasy!

PS- I agree with you on filtering garbage. I don't even bother to read it.
-Maura


"Have you ever been with a Warrior Woman?"

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Friday, June 30, 2006 6:48 AM

SOUPCATCHER


Quote:

Originally posted by Mavourneen:
Go to the person's profile page and on the left hand side of the screen you'll see a little area to send them a message. Your message will be sent to the email account they used to sign up to this board. Easy Peasy!


Your mileage may vary. I haven't been getting any e-mail notifications from this site in quite a while.

Another option would be to post a blog entry and then communicate back and forth through the comments to the blog. Not very private, but a little more private than a thread.

Other than posting your main e-mail address, you could always create a throw-away e-mail address in yahoo just so people could send you their e-mail addresses. A cut-out, so to speak.

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Friday, June 30, 2006 8:53 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by ShadowFLY:
Seems the high and mighty here have decided to jump on the weak-minded to justify their own issues when we all know that deep down inside they are just as bigoted and confused.

Am I high and mighty?
Hmmm...
You might have to pay me taxes, ShadowFLY. (How much is Batman Returns on DVD...?)
I demand $23.99 in taxes RIGHT NOW peasant!
Wait, is that the right thing to do if I'm high and mighty? I'm suddenly confused...
Hey! It seems from your post that you're of Irish descent...I HATE IRISH, JOCK! I HATE 'EM!

Wow, S., you nailed me.


Kidding Chrisisall

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Friday, June 30, 2006 9:12 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by HKCavalier:


Chris, what draws you in? What compels you to read him past the first few lines? We all of us internet habituees learn to filter garbage and move on--what is it about PN's rants that won't let you do that?

*grins sheepishly*
Really...nothing....
I always zip past practically all of it. Being a conspiracy fan myself, there's nothing he posts (W/the noteable exception of the White House sex parties stuff) that I haven't either heard of or know about. Much of it is actually true, but it's his endless and sometimes bigoted presentation that puts the nail in. His power for me is only the amount of time it takes me to scroll (and scroll).
I've seen him post succinct and interesting at times, even right here, but it's few and far between, and he seems most at ease baiting folk.
Too bad.

Chrisisall

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