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Monday, June 5, 2006 3:59 PM

MORDSITH


Is it bad to like angst as much as I do? I mean seriously, I live for it. I get so bored with the fluffy. I can take fluffy for a minute and then something angsty, dramatic or action packed has to happen.

I don't know why I'm posting this except I've never started a thread before and I guess I wanted to start one. That and I wanna know if I'm just totally disturbed or if people are as angsty as me.


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Monday, June 5, 2006 4:05 PM

DAYVE


...nothing epitomizes angst like a sterofom cup discarded along the highway of life....

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Monday, June 5, 2006 4:06 PM

MORDSITH


Very poetic.

I'm bored.

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Monday, June 5, 2006 4:07 PM

DAYVE


yo..tambien

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Monday, June 5, 2006 4:11 PM

DAYVE


put on an old Stones cd..or vinyl if possible.. sit back and lose yourself in that crazy mick vocal... Melody.. is a good one...

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Monday, June 5, 2006 4:12 PM

MORDSITH


Not a bad idea.

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Monday, June 5, 2006 4:16 PM

DAYVE


angst happens... and i for one, appreciate your opening thread... there's not much else happening here....

welcome to the club

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Monday, June 5, 2006 4:20 PM

13


I'm pretty angsty...although the 'Life On-Board Serenity' thread has been recieving some fluffy posts from Mr. 13..

Stones *are* good for that.

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Tuesday, June 6, 2006 5:15 AM

LEIASKY


I love angst. I love fluffy too, though.


"A government is a body of people usually notably ungoverned."

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Tuesday, June 6, 2006 5:50 AM

MAL4PREZ


Quote:

Originally posted by Mordsith:
Very poetic.

I'm bored.



That there is poetry.

Anyway, I'm with you. Love angst, though I sometimes have a hard time reconciling myself with it.

So, this is a question that probably shouldn't be asked, it being too personal and bound to lead icky places. But I'm curious, and it is the great anonymous internet: I myself did not have the best childhood, and sometimes I wonder if that's why I like to read angst. It vents bad feelings, and is so uplifting to see characters overcome trauma.

Any opinions on this?

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Tuesday, June 6, 2006 8:21 AM

DEEPGIRL187


Angst? Bring it on!

You're not disturbed at all. Love of angst is why I don't read Simon/Kaylee stories (not to say that there aren't Silee stories with angst; please don't flame me). They tend to be too fluffy for my tastes. Besides, if you think about it, Firefly is an angsty kind of show. With a character like Mal, its hard to avoid. So don't worry, you're among good company.

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Tuesday, June 6, 2006 9:52 AM

MORDSITH


Now see I'm just the opposite. I am a very happy person, I had a wonderful childhood, best parents in the world, nothing bad really has ever happened to me more than a grandparent dying. I think that is why I prefer angst. I think it's this darker untapped portion of myself. I get real bored real quick with fluffy stories.

These are stone killers, little man. They ain't cuddly like me.

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Tuesday, June 6, 2006 9:54 AM

MORDSITH


You know I just wrote a fluffy S/K story and I don't know why! I'm so not a fluffy person. I posted an angsty J/K story and M/K story to make up for it I think.

Man to a pimp out Kaylee a lot.

These are stone killers, little man. They ain't cuddly like me.

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Tuesday, June 6, 2006 10:07 AM

MAL4PREZ


Quote:

Originally posted by Mordsith:
Now see I'm just the opposite. I am a very happy person, I had a wonderful childhood, best parents in the world, nothing bad really has ever happened to me more than a grandparent dying. I think that is why I prefer angst. I think it's this darker untapped portion of myself. I get real bored real quick with fluffy stories.

These are stone killers, little man. They ain't cuddly like me.



I'm happy to hear that! So, loving angsty stories isn't some twisted manifestation of dysfunction. (Wow, that was a lot of big words at once.)

I'm a happy and somewhat well adjusted person when I'm away from fanfic, and I've never had a good explanation of the draw to angst. Hey - scientist here. I like having things well explained. Maybe I should give up and go with it, huh?

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Tuesday, June 6, 2006 10:10 AM

MAL4PREZ


Quote:

Originally posted by Mordsith:
You know I just wrote a fluffy S/K story and I don't know why! I'm so not a fluffy person. I posted an angsty J/K story and M/K story to make up for it I think.

Man to a pimp out Kaylee a lot.

These are stone killers, little man. They ain't cuddly like me.



I totally noticed that from reading the BSR blurbs! (Haven't read yet...)

I don't think I'm capable of writing S/K fluff. I don't feel pressured though - there're a lot of folks doing it better than I could! I'll stick to dark.

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Tuesday, June 6, 2006 10:11 AM

MORDSITH


Just go with the flow, my friend, go with the flow. Lol.

Yeah, I don't have the greatest explaintion for the angst either. When I was in high school I had to write poetry (and I am soooooooooo not a poetry person) So I had five poems I had to write and I wrote them all in like less than five minutes. No thought whatsoever.

When my teacher went to grade them, he thought I was having home problems or had been raped or something. He was asking all of his students if they knew me and if I was okay. I guess they were just that dark. But I was never like the loner, dark kid or anything like that.

These are stone killers, little man. They ain't cuddly like me.

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Tuesday, June 6, 2006 10:14 AM

MORDSITH


Yeah I'll stick Kaylee with just about anyone. I don't even know where my fluffy s/k came from. Like honestly, it didn't make sense. That's alright, I think there is enough angst in the last two stories to cover the S/k story.

I *heart* all you angsty writers out there.

These are stone killers, little man. They ain't cuddly like me.

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Tuesday, June 6, 2006 10:18 AM

MAL4PREZ


My senior year of high school I wrote a poem about suicide. I wasn't the happiest kid, but I was SO not suicidal. I was worried that I'd have the school shrink chasing me around, LOL!

Hey, it was just good imagery!

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Tuesday, June 6, 2006 10:46 AM

MORDSITH


Quote:

Originally posted by mal4prez:
My senior year of high school I wrote a poem about suicide. I wasn't the happiest kid, but I was SO not suicidal. I was worried that I'd have the school shrink chasing me around, LOL!

Hey, it was just good imagery!

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Haha I know what you mean. But look how well it paid off. You with your fabulous fic.

These are stone killers, little man. They ain't cuddly like me.

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Tuesday, June 6, 2006 10:47 AM

SPACEANJL


I like Joss' take on the 'verse. Make it dark, make it grim, and then tell a joke. Mixing it up is fun - torture interspersed with a little action, some romance.

"Life is pain, Highness. Anyone who says differently is selling something."

SpaceAnJL

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Wednesday, June 7, 2006 5:47 AM

MAL4PREZ


Quote:

Originally posted by SpaceAnJL:
I like Joss' take on the 'verse. Make it dark, make it grim, and then tell a joke. Mixing it up is fun - torture interspersed with a little action, some romance.



Because who says torture can't be fun?

Thanks for the words, Mordsith!

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Wednesday, June 7, 2006 6:47 AM

ARCADIA


I love angst, too. Always have. I think its just more intense than fluffy fic, and that's a real draw. And I think it had more potential to tes the limits of a persons character. All an all, angst just makes for more interesting stories.

Interesting fact: Every book I've read on "how to write such-and-such" (usually scifi), has offered this bit of advice when advising how to select a main character. They almost all said, "Ask yourself, who hurts the most? That's your main character." Interesting, huh? And kinda true, when you think about it. Mal is pretty much Firefly's main character. Is anyone on tha boat hurting more than he is? Generally, no. Anyone more angsty than Buddy in BtVS? Nope, she's the one who has to deal with the destiny thing.

Sorry for the tangent. It's just interesting trivia...

But, yeah, I like angst. LOVE it, in fact, and when you look at most dramas in whatever medium, angst really is what its all about.

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Thursday, July 6, 2006 7:16 AM

MORDSITH


Quote:

Originally posted by mal4prez:
Quote:

Originally posted by SpaceAnJL:
I like Joss' take on the 'verse. Make it dark, make it grim, and then tell a joke. Mixing it up is fun - torture interspersed with a little action, some romance.



Because who says torture can't be fun?

Thanks for the words, Mordsith!

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Anytime

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Thursday, July 6, 2006 7:24 AM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


I like some angst, and some action, but then with the fluff, too!
Course, the things I've written lately have been pretty angst. That's just because I myself have been pretty angst.

Just curious, Mordsith, am I the first one to know what your name means, or have other people wanted to talk to you about Mr Goodkind's fine work?

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Thursday, July 6, 2006 7:58 AM

MAL4PREZ


Yay! Bringing back the angst thread to encourage more angst writing!

So share PR - what's the mordsith name mean?

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Thursday, July 6, 2006 8:08 AM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


Oh Lord and Lady, it's not a very short story. In fact, it's one of the longest stories I've ever read.
Terry Goodkind is a fantasy writer who has written many very thick books in "The Sword of Truth" series. I believe there are ten now and a few more yet to come out.
There is magic and war and much strife. Also true love and crazy-powerful characters.
Mord-Sith are women who can steal almost any magic and use it against the original user. There is one magic that is deadly to them, but I won't get into that. Anyway, they are torture artists, they wear red leather to hide the blood, and they carry a magical red leather rod that inflicts great pain. They become more and more cool as the series goes on.
Also, they make their captives call them "Mistress". Heh.
They are very good books, very well-written, but quite long and dense. I love 'em.

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Thursday, July 6, 2006 8:24 AM

MAL4PREZ


Quote:

Originally posted by PhoenixRose:
Mord-Sith ... are torture artists, they wear red leather to hide the blood, and they carry a magical red leather rod that inflicts great pain. They become more and more cool as the series goes on. Also, they make their captives call them "Mistress".



Wow, I have an all new appreciation for you Mordsith!!

I wish I had a magical red leather rod.

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Thursday, July 6, 2006 10:51 AM

MORDSITH


Someone asked once if that was what it was (it might have been you, I can't remember the screenname) but other than that, no one has know.

I'm excited for the new book, btw, I think it comes out in October or something like that??

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Thursday, July 6, 2006 10:55 AM

MORDSITH


Quote:

Originally posted by mal4prez:
Quote:

Originally posted by PhoenixRose:
Mord-Sith ... are torture artists, they wear red leather to hide the blood, and they carry a magical red leather rod that inflicts great pain. They become more and more cool as the series goes on. Also, they make their captives call them "Mistress".



Wow, I have an all new appreciation for you Mordsith!!

I wish I had a magical red leather rod.

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Don't we all wish we had a magical red leather rod. Those woman are pretty bad ass. I love those gorram books and I'm not even a huge fantasy book reader. I have a yahoo screen name that is the_mordsiths_agiel which an agiel is the name of their torture rods lol. Wacky fun!

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Thursday, July 6, 2006 5:39 PM

SAMEERTIA


I like my angst in my fiction and my fluffy in my real life.

Try not to mix the two.

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Thursday, July 6, 2006 5:43 PM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


I'm excited for the new book, too! Been dying to find out what happens. Poor Kahlan. I don't know when it comes out, I just always check when I walk into a bookstore.

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Wednesday, July 12, 2006 1:35 AM

COSMICFUGITIVE


Shameful self promotion alert.

The following Kaylee story is pretty angsty. Kaylee and Simon are a couple in this story. It's the darkest, most emotional story that I've ever tackled..

[url] http://www.fireflyfans.net/sunroomitem.asp?i=4188 [/url]

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Wednesday, July 19, 2006 8:21 AM

MORDSITH


If you're into dark fics, you should click on my name and check out the story 'TheQuestion'. There are five parts, sort of a tag team story. It's pretty dark and angsty. It's about Kaylee and well...she's gotta answer a question *evil grin*

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Thursday, July 20, 2006 2:01 AM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


Sorry to wander off topic again, but did you see that the new Sword of Truth book is out now?
I hafta go reserve it at the library; can't buy the bloody hardbacks.

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Thursday, July 20, 2006 7:02 AM

MORDSITH


I totally noticed that yesterday! Squeeeeeeee! I'm so excited. It's been awhile since the last one. I really didn't think this one was coming out until October, but I got an email from Barnes and Noble that you could order it.

Poor Kahlan *pets her*

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Monday, July 24, 2006 10:30 PM

JETFLAIR


Ohh, good topic! Ya know....I think Firefly got me into angst! I always disliked it, didn't like angsty songs or movies, etc.

Fast-forward to after watching Firefly, when I started writing fanfic. What came out? Angst and violence, from yours truly....the fluff girl! I thought it was just a phase, but the story just gets angstier as I perfect my craft, and all of a sudden I'm finding those are the stories I most like to read.

Am I now a sick and twisted person????? Grr. Got to looking at The Losing Side (my fic), what I've written so far and what's in store for the future, and got a little worried about myself. It's not dark for dark's sake, there's story and humanity and healing at the heart of it......but dang, am I really the one writing this?!

And why do I find myself enjoying all these darker stories? I couldn't even listen to sad songs, or watch the torture scenes in The Princess Bride!
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Monday, July 24, 2006 11:56 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


My life has been so riddled with angst that I just thought it was normal for everyone growing up. I simply cannot relate to fluffy. I always listened to songs of heartbreak and aingst at 5 when my parents split. Songs like "I'll be watching you", "Endless Summer Nights", "Against All Odds", "Hard For Me to Say I'm Sorry", and "Look Away" I can remember listening to when most kids my age probably didn't know what half the words meant. I'm not really sure if listening to those songs and feeling it in your gut at 5 or getting the scared out of you by watching "The Twilight Zone" or "The Thing" at 5 years old is worse for the psyche. I am sure that it's all pretty desensitizing by the time you reach 27. (Next month yay)

From personal experience, for anybody who doesn't like their children and is looking to do some permanant damage, I recommend emotional and mental abuse anyday over physical abuse. Really get into their head and pour in all of your own nerousis. Bruises heal but the psyche never quite does. I love the kids I'll never have so much that I won't have them in order to end that viscious cycle. I know both of my parents went through it or else they wouldn't have inflicted that upon their own children. I would have liked to have kids I think, and chanece are, the good would outweight the bad, but I never had real parents for role models and I wouldn't have a clue where to start. I don't hate my parents. I actually have more love for them than most might have for their parents. Having lived through all the suffering brings me a much deeper understanding of what it feels like to be up to your eyeballs in angst and depression and hate and I just feel sorry for both of them that they had to go through that themselves. One of them, to this day, will never stop putting themselves through the angst grinder because they get off on the angst... and for that, I am truly full of pity. There is no hate left in me now. If I have one lesson to learn from them it is that if you hold on to your hate then it will consume you one day.

Embrace your angst.... It means you are human. If you never felt angst, you could never appreciate just how good love feels. Just don't stew in that angst too long and let it fester. Try to balance it out with some fluffy. It's all about yin and yang boys and girls. Too much angst and you find that it becomes your natural state of being and trying to feel anything other than angst becomes laborious. Especially if you refuse to take any prescription drugs that the alliance wants to get us all hopped up on. (see: Pax)

I hope that one day maybe I'll find me a Kaylee of my own who will change my mind about all that and SHOW ME THE FLUFFY!

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