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Your NEXT car.... what will it be?

POSTED BY: CHRISISALL
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Thursday, September 9, 2010 2:15 PM

CHRISISALL


I LOVE my 1999 Saturn LS

but Saturn is now a thing of the past.
IF I need to get a new one sometime in the near future, my Son says a Beetle or Smart Car, but I'm considering this:

Chevy Aveo

Am I nuts, or is this a decent ride for the money?

And what are YOU considering?




The I-can't-afford-a-Delorean Chrisisall



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Thursday, September 9, 2010 2:17 PM

ECGORDON

There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.


I'd recommend either a Honda Civic or a Mazda3.

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Thursday, September 9, 2010 2:24 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by ecgordon:
I'd recommend either a Honda Civic or a Mazda3.

Civic is a little large these days, but Ooooooh, Mazda 3 is NIIICE. A third more in price, but I might be able to deal with that....


The laughing Chrisisall


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Thursday, September 9, 2010 2:34 PM

CHRISISALL


Mazda 2 looks sweet too!!! And even a tighter turning radius, I presume!!!



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Thursday, September 9, 2010 2:55 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


90% sure my next car will be a Mazda Protegé5:



Predates the Mazda3, but same basic premise. And with a set of MazdaSpeed springs and antiroll bars, they handle *quite* nicely. Nice ones go for around $3200 these days.

If not that, I'd go for the Lexus IS300 Sportcross:



Same concept, but nicer. Downside? Only available with automatic transmission. And a nice used one is still above $10k.

Other possibilities:

Honda Element.


Subaru WRX/ Saab 9-2x (Same car, different badges, but both made in Japan by Subaru).




I've got a 2003 Civic now, and I hate it. It's the epitome of boring and bland. My wife likes it, so it's all hers. I'm a longtime Honda fanatic, having owned no fewer than a dozen of 'em, including six CRXs and four Civics. The only Honda I really regret selling was my '91 Accord Wagon, so my next car will be another wagon. Need something to haul dogs and bikes in, and I hate SUVs. Wagons give all the practicality of an SUV, but handle better, get better mileage, and look better to boot.

But Chris, if you really like the Saturn, look at a new Buick Regal. Same underpinnings as the Saturn Aura, I believe (sourced from German Opel, aka GM of Germany). It's actually getting good reviews.

Mazda2 is sweet, but might be a bit too much like a Geo Metro in size and mission. I've seen it, and I kinda dig it, though.

My buddy David has a very sweet Mazda3 Sport, which is very nice, but he swears he misses the Protegé he had before it.

Something's gone wrong at Honda, and I fear my love affair with them is at an end... :(

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Thursday, September 9, 2010 2:58 PM

BRIGLAD


If I had the cash ($26,000) I know a guy who can get me one of these...




2011 (Last production year) Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor. The's cars are not for sale to the general public.

They are big and safe (75 MPH front and rear crash rating) and get remarkably good mileage for a two ton, V-8 powered car. I currently own a 1992 Mercury Grand Marquise (Nearly the same vehicle) that gets 22 mpg, (mixed highway and city driving) has 118,000 miles on the odometer and it needs a tune up!! All tweaked out, It should get about 24 mpg.

It's sad that the American, full frame, rear wheel drive car is becoming extinct. These things can take a pounding.

NYC Taxi Crowns are routinely hitting 300,000 very hard miles.

Or if I really had money... I'd take a 2011 Mustang GT....




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Thursday, September 9, 2010 3:32 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:

Mazda2 is sweet, but might be a bit too much like a Geo Metro in size and mission. I've seen it, and I kinda dig it, though.


I like small one man fighters.


The laughing Chrisisall


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Thursday, September 9, 2010 3:46 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:

Mazda2 is sweet, but might be a bit too much like a Geo Metro in size and mission. I've seen it, and I kinda dig it, though.


I like small one man fighters.

The laughing Chrisisall




I hear ya. Remember, *SIX* CRXs. It's as small a car as I've found that I can actually get inside and drive. If you really like small and nimble, look at a Miata. There are very few cars at any price that can keep up with a Miata on a twisty road. Unfortunately, nobody much over 6' tall can fit in 'em, or I'd have had a half-dozen of those instead of the CRXs!

So back to your quandary: Beetle = NO. Terrible reliability, high maintenance costs. VWs are nice when they're in warranty, and pure hell when they aren't. Virtually ALL of m old VW buddies from the racing days have gotten the hell away from Vee-Dubs and gone to Subarus, simply because they got tired of the hassles of the damn things always breaking down and being next to impossible to diagnose.

Smart Car: Ditto. Smart started as a joint venture between Mercedes-Benz and Swatch (the watch company); I'm not making this up. What should be simple and cheap (like a Swatch) ended up heavy, over-engineered, and expensive (like a Benz). They don't even get decent mileage, either, for what you give up (any semblance of utility or storage capacity, for instance).

If you want to be a glutton for that kind of punishment, go for it.

Heck, if you like Saturn and you like small, why not try to snake a deal on a Saturn Sky roadster? They actually look really sweet, and you're going to be able to get parts for a good long while...



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Thursday, September 9, 2010 3:47 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by Briglad:
If I had the cash ($26,000) I know a guy who can get me one of these...




2011 (Last production year) Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor. The's cars are not for sale to the general public.

They are big and safe (75 MPH front and rear crash rating) and get remarkably good mileage for a two ton, V-8 powered car. I currently own a 1992 Mercury Grand Marquise (Nearly the same vehicle) that gets 22 mpg, (mixed highway and city driving) has 118,000 miles on the odometer and it needs a tune up!! All tweaked out, It should get about 24 mpg.

It's sad that the American, full frame, rear wheel drive car is becoming extinct. These things can take a pounding.

NYC Taxi Crowns are routinely hitting 300,000 very hard miles.

Or if I really had money... I'd take a 2011 Mustang GT....








Can't you pick those up at police auctions for a few grand?

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Thursday, September 9, 2010 4:02 PM

ECGORDON

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Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
90% sure my next car will be a Mazda Protegé5...
My buddy David has a very sweet Mazda3 Sport, which is very nice, but he swears he misses the Protegé he had before it.


I had a '96 Protege that was great, but I gave that one to my son when he was in college, and he still has it. It still runs great, no problems whatsoever.

On a recent trip visiting him I rented a Civic and really liked it, although I would have preferred a manual transmission.

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Thursday, September 9, 2010 5:44 PM

OPTIMUS1998


Quote:

Originally posted by Briglad:
If I had the cash ($26,000) I know a guy who can get me one of these...






ha! that reminded me of one of those "if money were no object what car would you buy" discussions i had
with myself a couple years ago..
get a black (and they really all SHOULD be) Mercury Marauder, and have it completely re-badged replacing the mercury logos with Peacekeeper symbols

and have the whole thing done in black w/minimal red trim.




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Thursday, September 9, 2010 6:55 PM

PHOENIXROSE

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I will very likely be buying another Subaru. That machine has served me very well for nearly six years, and I bought her used; she's more than ten years old. My mechanics have all said that she's likely to go twice the mileage she already has, so I call that a good investment.
I've also heard a lot about the Nissan Leaf, and from my research Nissan does make good cars, so I would consider that. But I really love my Subaru. If you like the small one-man fighter type, I'd look at the Impreza. That's one sexy little car.

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Thursday, September 9, 2010 9:18 PM

FREMDFIRMA


Chris ?

Nissan Versa, hands down, bang for the buck, you ain't gonna do better, and despite all the whinging, if you went and bought an overpriced
"american made"* deathtrap gasguzzler car, I'd have to beat some sense into you for your own good.

*"American Made", HA! - NORTH american, that is, assembled in mexico out of chinese parts cast from shit-metal I wouldn't boil potatoes in!

96% of that Aveo is made in South Korea, for example, whereas 70% of the ostensibly "foreign" Honda Accord is made in Ohio...

And so forth and so on, so don't let those flag waving morons sell you a line of crap or a crappy car, ehe ?

Oh, and if you buy a Kia, I won't have to clobber you, your mechanic will -
don't believe me, go tell him you're about to buy a Kia, but better do it with a head start!


-Frem

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Thursday, September 9, 2010 10:54 PM

MEATPUPPET42


Nissan , Honda , subaru are your best bets
Had a few hondas they would run forever exellent cars.




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I Love it. It's like wiping your ass with silk.

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Thursday, September 9, 2010 11:24 PM

BRIGLAD


Quote:

*"American Made", HA! - NORTH american, that is, assembled in mexico out of chinese parts cast from shit-metal I wouldn't boil potatoes in!

96% of that Aveo is made in South Korea, for example, whereas 70% of the ostensibly "foreign" Honda Accord is made in Ohio...

And so forth and so on, so don't let those flag waving morons sell you a line of crap or a crappy car, ehe ?



True. The Crown Victoria/Mercury Grand Marquis/Lincoln Town Car are not made in the USA. There are built in St. Thomas Ontario, Canada.

And I do buy American. I follow the adage, "Out of work? Hungry? Eat your import car..."

Deathtrap? No way.



Tell me if you had been driving a Kia, you would have survived this? The officer was injured but not killed.

As for buying a new vs. auction Crown, sure, you can pick a late model one up for about $10,000 but it will already have 100,000 hard miles on it. A new one , if taken care of will last for a very long time...

The only imports I would even consider are Volvo or Land Rover. Maybe Volkswagen. For a Japanese Import, Subaru only.

My current car is no gas guzzler. it's 19 years old, weighs 4,000 pounds and still gets 23 MPG. It has the digital instrument cluster and I get both instant and average MPG displayed on the dash. I've seen as high as 30 mpg in no wind, cruising at 70 MPH on a flat interstate.

If you pulled out in front of me with your smart car and I hit you... the Fire Department would get you out with a shop vac.

I was a firefighter and EMT for nearly 20 years combined. I've been to over 1,000 car accidents. Why do you think I drive a large full framed sedan? I was once in an accident where I was struck in the drivers door. I had a mid sized Chevy and was hit by a large Jeep. If I had been in anything smaller, I would have been killed. Instead I had just minor injuries (If you call 3 broken ribs and bruised kidney, Minor)


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Friday, September 10, 2010 5:16 AM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


Quote:

Originally posted by Briglad:
For a Japanese Import, Subaru only.


Um, yeah, Subarus are built in Indiana...

http://green.autoblog.com/2006/10/31/subaru-zero-waste-factory-wins-ep
a-award
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But if you want to call them strict imports I guess that's up to you.

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Friday, September 10, 2010 5:55 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by PhoenixRose:
Quote:

Originally posted by Briglad:
For a Japanese Import, Subaru only.


Um, yeah, Subarus are built in Indiana...

http://green.autoblog.com/2006/10/31/subaru-zero-waste-factory-wins-ep
a-award
/




... among other places...


Most carmakers have plants all over the world now. Every Honda CRX ever made came out of their Suzuka plant in Japan. All Civics sold in North America come from their Canadian plant. All Accord wagons sold in the world came out of Marysville, Ohio, etc.

SOME Subarus come from Indiana, but some still come out of Japan.

"Buy American" doesn't have any meaning anymore. So much of the "American" stuff people think they're being patriotic in buying is made elsewhere, it's just idiotic to think you're supporting American jobs by buying things like Ford F150s and Chevy Camaros.

Wanna REALLY support American jobs and labor? Stop shopping at Wal-Mart.

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Friday, September 10, 2010 7:29 AM

JOSSISAGOD


I currently have a Saturn 3-door, I'm thinking my next car will be a Mazda Rx8, for the rear suicide door, so I can throw my wheelchair in the back after I take back seat out.

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Friday, September 10, 2010 7:36 AM

FARFLY


Nothing special.


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Friday, September 10, 2010 7:44 AM

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My next car will be.... a long way off.

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Friday, September 10, 2010 12:09 PM

FREMDFIRMA



Briglad, I'll not deny the Crown Vic is serious stuff, and still easy enough to find parts and repairs for, and oh how I do love good ole fashion Detroit rolling steel...

But if you're buying a car to soak UP a wreck, hell, buy a Volvo, heh!

The idea is not to get clobbered in the first place, although lookin around here in MI where every third car is some monstrous SUV and I can't even see the goddamn street signs through the beasts, I can see why some folk wouldn't want a smaller car, but despite all claims to the contrary the laws of physics still apply and those monsters are NOT maneuverable in snow and ice, a fact highlighted by the parade of the damn things lying sideways and upside down on I-94 every winter...

In fact, that's a situation where they WOULD be better off with a crown vic, cause the handling is better, lower ground pressure and shorter stop distance, not to mention that the heater in them damn things is near indestructible, unlike the pieces of shit in my car or my ex's truck, both of which break down every 2-3 months.

As far as buying american though, honestly, knowing what I just toldja, if you had a choice between the Honda Accord and Chevy Aveo - which one puts more money in american workers pockets, neh ?

I like the big-daddy boats, but I got no use for one no more, I never GO any bloodywhere save to the grocery store and around town, in fact, my personal car is used so rarely I might consider buying a classic, the insurance isn't so bad when I drive it so little, and it wouldn't add a lot of wear and tear, but would run it every so often so it doesn't get sitting-rot either, so I'm like the perfect owner for one...
Fact of the matter, if that Hudson Hornet goes up on the corner again, imma get a price on it, cause if I bought the Mustang Mach I my insurance company would hire a hit-man!

Small cars can be fun too, one of my buddies back in West Va had an AMC Gremlin X, and that thing was heaps of fun, basically a box and some seats strapped to a V-8, was all it was.

Let's not kid ourselves about most "modern" umm "american-made" cars though, especially when it comes to GM, one might remember I have the only car I've ever heard of to be lemon-lawed twice, by different owners, for different problems, and I just replaced ANOTHER set of warped brake rotors.

-Frem

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Friday, September 10, 2010 12:13 PM

FEARTHEBUNNYMAN


Quote:

Originally posted by Briglad:

Or if I really had money... I'd take a 2011 Mustang GT....



I've got the 2005 with a drop top, and it is deeelightful. The 2011 looks even better but I'm sticking with mine for a while more. Even though it's a gas-guzzler.
Barring that, I've always been fond of Cadillacs. Smoothest ride for your tush money can buy.

Also:

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Friday, September 10, 2010 12:32 PM

PENGUIN


I'm going to get a 2011 Tardis.

Small on the outside but roomy on the inside!





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Friday, September 10, 2010 5:19 PM

OPTIMUS1998


Quote:

Originally posted by Penguin:
I'm going to get a 2011 Tardis.

Small on the outside but roomy on the inside!



I SO would love to get either one of the older Scion xB's,like this:

or a Nissan Cube, in dark blue, with the plate BLUBOX (last i Checked BLUEBOX,and TARDIS were both unavailable here in the buckeye state)


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Saturday, September 11, 2010 12:10 AM

CALHOUN


My new bike. isn't she pretty!



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Saturday, September 11, 2010 1:09 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by optimus1998:
Quote:

Originally posted by Penguin:
I'm going to get a 2011 Tardis.

Small on the outside but roomy on the inside!



I SO would love to get either one of the older Scion xB's,like this:

or a Nissan Cube, in dark blue, with the plate BLUBOX (last i Checked BLUEBOX,and TARDIS were both unavailable here in the buckeye state)


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Love the first-generation XB; *HATE* the second-gen model. Everything that was right about the first, they changed on the redesign. Very disappointing. :(

I like the Cube, too; it's so goofy it's cute, and so cute it's goofy. Based on the Versa platform, too, which bodes well...

I actually quite like the Kia Seoul, but I'm leery, because (1) it's a Kia (ask Frem), and (2) they seem to be having issues with steering knuckles and hubs falling off, leading to front wheels leaving the cars at inopportune moments (like, when driving!).

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Saturday, September 11, 2010 1:10 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by Calhoun:
My new bike. isn't she pretty!








Yes. Yes she is.

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Saturday, September 11, 2010 10:13 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Here ya go:

http://autos.yahoo.com/articles/autos_content_landing_pages/1520/10-ca
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Saturday, September 11, 2010 12:27 PM

OPPYH


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
I LOVE my 1999 Saturn LS

but Saturn is now a thing of the past.
IF I need to get a new one sometime in the near future, my Son says a Beetle or Smart Car, but I'm considering this:

Chevy Aveo

Am I nuts, or is this a decent ride for the money?

And what are YOU considering?




The I-can't-afford-a-Delorean Chrisisall





Funny You should mention Saturn. I have been eyeballing the Saturn Ion for months now, and I'm about ready to purchase a good used one for about $11,000.


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Saturday, September 11, 2010 12:31 PM

CHRISISALL


The first Ions did not impress me, but the one pictured is sweet. Go for it- my Saturn has only had one major problem at 194,000 miles- the transmission had to be replaced (manual, and I drive like Speed Racer). $1300, and worth it IMO.


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Sunday, September 12, 2010 2:56 PM

BORIS


If I was allowed to drive I'd find me an old EH Holden and have it repainted in one of it's original colours (turquoise/aqua) and get the engine remodelled to be greeener. The inside would be done in tan leather.

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Sunday, September 12, 2010 3:12 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by beatupplenty:
I will probably drive it until it spontaneously falls to pieces in the middle of the highway. What can I say I'm a HOPELESS romantic.


That's what I'd do....


Chrisisall


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Sunday, September 12, 2010 3:14 PM

CHRISISALL




Now THAT'S pretty!!!

I am not a number...!!!


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Monday, September 13, 2010 7:30 AM

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I want a new Ford Escape:)...Love my Liberty,but really like the idea of OnStar

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It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Monday, September 13, 2010 3:18 PM

OPTIMUS1998


Quote:

Originally posted by MsA:
I want a new Ford Escape:)...Love my Liberty,but really like the idea of OnStar

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.



...um.....
OnStar is a GM Thing...
Perhaps you were thinking of the Ford/Microsoft Sync System?

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Monday, September 13, 2010 3:18 PM

OPTIMUS1998


and to finally get back to the original intent of this thread...
next car? not sure of a model, but i do definitely want a hybrid.( was leaning towards a Prius or a Ford Fusion hybrid, if the Fusion didn't cost thirty grand..) as i just don't realistically see gas prices plummeting anytime soon, or another fuel becoming really viable for another 15-20 yrs minimum. Last Ride was a 2000 Hyundai Sonata. his name was Bob. Bought him in Aug 01 with 16k miles. Sold This past Feb with 103k miles. no real problems.
Replaced him with an '05 Dodge Neon SXT ,54k mi.
Bought off my brother($4000.) who just didn't find the neon fun to drive anymore. He bought an '06 Mustang with 20-some odd thousand miles on it.
(he's since put a Roush front strut brace,tried 3 Different sets of Mufflers, a set of Bullit Wheels, and now a set of Shelby wheels on said mustang.
since February.
2010.
and i should add new tires to go with each set of wheels.)

can you tell he's never married or had kids?

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Monday, September 13, 2010 3:30 PM

KWICKO

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Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:


Now THAT'S pretty!!!

I am not a number...!!!


The laughing Chrisisall





Chris: You are a modeler. Your Son is also a modeler, correct?

What you have pictured there is a kit car. A project. Think of it as a 1:1 scale model. You can totally build this. SonIsAll can help. Then he can drive. That car, kitted out, weighs less than one thousand pounds. Think about that - it weighs LESS THAN HALF what my CRX weighs, and that CRX weighs less than half of what most cars weigh these days.

Lightness is its own reward. It brings amazing handling, phenomenal fuel economy, great fun, and teaches you how to drive by thinking ahead, since there generally isn't much power in a very light car, so you have to plan well ahead for passing, etc.

Do this. You know you want to. It's imperative. When you're 75 and SonIsAll is married with children, you're never going to look back and say "Remember when we went looking at New Beetles?" But build a car together, and you'll have stories to tell your grandchildren, and he'll have stories to tell HIS grandchildren!

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Tuesday, September 14, 2010 7:30 AM

CHRISISALL


Y'know Mike... that is a gorram great idea!!!!

I'll seriously toss it at Sonisall!

Thanks!


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Tuesday, September 14, 2010 7:44 AM

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Probably best if you bounce it off your wife first.


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Tuesday, September 14, 2010 8:30 AM

CHRISISALL


She's all like "Where will you build it?"

Sonisall has a pretty big room....


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Tuesday, September 14, 2010 9:53 AM

CHRISISALL


YIKES!!!
A little hunting around shows it can cost between 6 & 45 thousand dollars!!!

I'm frakin' dizzy! Who do I trust?

Help me Obi-Wan Kwicko, you're my only hope.


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Tuesday, September 14, 2010 10:01 AM

ZEEK


I've had a Mazda 6 for 5 years now. I like it well enough. So, I might just get another one of those. I don't drive it too far though. So, it should be years and years before I think about a new car. Maybe by then I'll be looking at hybrid or electric.

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Tuesday, September 14, 2010 10:04 AM

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Tuesday, September 14, 2010 12:17 PM

COZEN


Two many wheels.

Current ride (close approximation, not actually mine):




Desired ride, but couldn't wait for it to be imported to North America:



Ushuaia or bust, there's just this one life.

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Tuesday, September 14, 2010 12:27 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by farfly:
http://www.uscaterham.com/



Thanks, bro.


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Tuesday, September 14, 2010 12:34 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by cozen:


Desired ride, but couldn't wait for it to be imported to North America:




Too heavy. Won't easily jump curbs. 70MPH jump off 5 foot wall results in 19-21 foot sail before ground contact. That's NOT good.


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Tuesday, September 14, 2010 12:43 PM

KWICKO

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Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by farfly:
http://www.uscaterham.com/



Thanks, bro.


The laughing Chrisisall




Yeah, that's the downside, is the cost. You can go cheap, but you have to do *A TON* of the work yourself - like sourcing the engine, transmission, axles, driveshaft, engine management system, etc., *OR* you can go more expensive and get a nearly all-inclusive kit that you basically just put together. The $45k ones are generally "turn-key" models that are mostly (if not COMPLETELY) finished and ready to drive off their lot.

Also, it depends on how much power, lightness, and custom equipment you want. Basic model with a not much power should be cheap; 300hp version with carbon-fibre tub, bodywork, fenders, etc. is going to get VERY expensive in a hurry.

But seriously, for something this small and light, anything over a hundred horsepower is pure overkill. With a Ford Focus engine, this thing will absolutely KILL a Ferrari, Viper, or Corvette around a tight road course.

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Tuesday, September 14, 2010 12:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Zeek:
I've had a Mazda 6 for 5 years now. I like it well enough. So, I might just get another one of those. I don't drive it too far though. So, it should be years and years before I think about a new car. Maybe by then I'll be looking at hybrid or electric.




New 6 is really pretty. I've been hooked on Hondas for years, but more and more, I'm convinced there's a Mazda in my future. They've gotten VERY good, and have gotten pretty damn slick to boot.

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Tuesday, September 14, 2010 1:06 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:

But seriously, for something this small and light, anything over a hundred horsepower is pure overkill. With a Ford Focus engine, this thing will absolutely KILL a Ferrari, Viper, or Corvette around a tight road course.


I want 300 HP!!! MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!


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Tuesday, September 14, 2010 1:56 PM

COZEN


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:Too heavy. Won't easily jump curbs. 70MPH jump off 5 foot wall results in 19-21 foot sail before ground contact. That's NOT good.



Nearly there, Chris. Think "berm", as opposed to "curb". Note that that I farkled (beefed up) the suspension ere undertaking the journey. Though not the luggage. One sees a set of US Army spec ammo cases in one's near future, ie, soon as possible after the first and inevitable serious high/low side.

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