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Angel Only WB Show To Post Seasonal Gain

POSTED BY: ANGELDOVE
UPDATED: Tuesday, July 6, 2004 19:18
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Thursday, June 24, 2004 1:23 PM

ANGELDOVE


As posted at www.buffy.nu

I don't know if this has been posted here, and yes I am harping on something that is over, there is nothing anyone can do anymore to bring back our beloved show, but info like this certainly doesn't make it any easier. Is there going to be a network left that I don't hate with a passion?

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Get this: of the top seven WB shows, Angel was the ONLY ONE that posted a gain this year. Its overall ratings were up 8%. That’s not super-huge, but it’s fairly significant for a show in its fifth season. The other six all dove, some precipitously. 7th Heaven dropped 15%. Smallville plummeted by a stunning 25% from last year. Everwood and Charmed both dropped 4%. Reba lost 11%. And critical darling Gilmore Girls went down 21%. For an even more shocking number, the final episode this year posted almost 1.5 million more viewers than normal; stunningly the numbers for the finale even beat the numbers for the finale of its parent show, Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Clearly, something was going on here.
The only thing that seems to make any sense at all is the fact that The WB blanched because they had to pay a bit more for the show, since it was a 20th Century Fox production. Still, increased ratings, word-of-mouth, and the ability to sell product are usually seen as desirable things. The fact that UPN didn’t pick up Angel they way they did with Buffy (which was not cancelled, but rather, moved) has more to do with the fact that UPN lost money on the Buffy manuever and is busy pissing away cash on the swiftly sinking Enterprise (all I need to say there is "Alien Nazis"; didn’t Roddenberry already beat the fuck out of that dead horse once?).




"Two roads diverged in a wood, and I took the road less traveled by and they CANCELLED MY FRIKKIN' SHOW. I totally shoulda took the road that had all those people on it. Damn." --Joss

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Thursday, June 24, 2004 3:10 PM

INSANESPIKE


I read that somewhere myself several days ago. Just goes to show you that the WB was lying to the fans all along....

"How drunk was I last night?"

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Saturday, June 26, 2004 9:36 AM

MRSKBORG


I can't say I'm surprised by these figures - the only to shows shown over here in the uk that I watched were Smallville and Charmed - I gave up on Smallville early on it was no where near as good as it had beeb and the only reason I watched Charmed is my kid likes it. She'll learn. In time.

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Saturday, June 26, 2004 12:01 PM

LISSA


somebody get me a shovel. it's thumping time.

~lissa, spwhore

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Saturday, June 26, 2004 12:30 PM

EST120


wow. that is all i can say. with ratings dropping that much in one season for some of those shows (like smallville and gilmore girls) will the WB cancel them? a 20%+ drop in ratings sounds enormous to me, but i am not a tv executive. i can understand the hesitation of other networks to move shows. still..... wow. i did not know their other shows were dropping that fast. i think it just goes to show that critical acclaim does not make a show good to the public. there are lots of other "critically acclaimed" shows on other networks that get second and third lives because of that but ratings are still low. if entertainment is truly a business, then, as a network, why do you care that critics love your shows. should they not care that the public watches them and therefore making advertisers want to buy airtime? certainly, having a show that is both a critical and popular success is ideal, but look at some of the longer running shows on TV and not all of them are particularly GOOD shows from an artistic standpoint but they were popular and that is how they lasted. the one that always sticks out in my mind is married with children. it was one for 10 years. 10 YEARS!



"i can't comprehend the ways that i miss you, they come to light in my mistakes."
-neko case

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Tuesday, July 6, 2004 7:18 PM

ANGELDOVE


Quote:

Originally posted by est120:
i think it just goes to show that critical acclaim does not make a show good to the public. there are lots of other "critically acclaimed" shows on other networks that get second and third lives because of that but ratings are still low. if entertainment is truly a business, then, as a network, why do you care that critics love your shows. should they not care that the public watches them and therefore making advertisers want to buy airtime? certainly, having a show that is both a critical and popular success is ideal, but look at some of the longer running shows on TV and not all of them are particularly GOOD shows from an artistic standpoint but they were popular and that is how they lasted.



I was actually talking to a friend about this recently. Wonderfalls was getting good critical buzz but didn't last past four eps because of ratings (and its FOX, hello?) and though I did not watch Keen Eddie, I do remember it was also getting great critical buzz and only lasted half a season (yet again FOX). Now you have Alias which is also highly rated critically, but not strong in the ratings especially for a major network like ABC, its ratings tend to fall in the 5 - 10 million margin, and it is in constant fear of cancelation. But it is also about how networks handle the shows in the first place. No one wants to nurture anymore and allow a good show to gain an audience. They either axe it early (Firefly, Wonderfalls) or move it around incesantly so you can't find it. causing only die-hard fans to keep looking for it (Angel moved four times in five years!!) Not to mention when shows are taken off the air for weeks on end, during the time when other networks are showing reruns, which give viewers the opportunity to shop during this period to see what's out there, but don't get to catch these shows in the replay to possibly pick up that shopping audience (both Angel and Alias fall into this catagory). TV's gone to hell, and I don't see a furture return to the living anytime soon.

"Two roads diverged in a wood, and I took the road less traveled by and they CANCELLED MY FRIKKIN' SHOW. I totally shoulda took the road that had all those people on it. Damn." --Joss

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