Quote: Wechoosethemoon.org is an interactive experience recreating the historic Apollo 11 mission to the Moon in real time. Once where only three men made the trip, now millions can. Live event begins 9:32 AM EDT July 16, 2009. Exactly 40 years after Apollo 11 lifted off.
20 years ago, I spent the Apollo 11 anniversary at the National Air & Space Museum, and they recreated the events in real time on video monitors all around the museum, i.e. the landing was shown at 4:17pm EDT.
This looks to be an even better way to relive it!
EDIT: Sorry, y'all! I should've included these links, too...
Follow the timestamps on the Journals in combo with the timers on WeChooseTheMoon to avoid the long periods of static on the Air-to-Ground audio while the astronauts are sleeping or eating (or just not talkative).
Funny how on the Apollo tapes, there's no delay for radio to travel 500,000 miles between the Earth and the Moon at 186,000 miles per second. Hard to have a conversation with a 2.5-second delay...
Too bad Uncle Scam hasn't printed its own money or kept its income taxes since 1917. www.freedomtofascism.com
Too bad its been 45 years since CIA whacked JFK Sr in Operation Northwoods, and 10 years since it whacked JFK Jr.
Too bad Amerikans are the dumbest sheeple on the planet.
Who forgot the frakkin rocket exhaust?!
"No manned spacecraft now exists that can withstand the radiation from the Van Allen belts, through which a craft must traverse to make it to the Moon." -SpaceDaily.com, March 9, 1998
Quote: Originally posted by Kwicko: But wait - doesn't the "fact" that you can do it here without leaving Earth "prove" that men never landed on the Moon?
(Just kidding - trying to pre-empt PN's usual line of BS)
I was a boy when Apollo 11 landed on the moon. I was sitting there watching the TV with my family when Armstrong took his famous step. It's something that I will never forget.
It is astounding to me that nearly 40 years have passed since that day.
And it is sad to me that younger people... even folks in their late 30s and early 40s... just can't know what that experience was like, when we watched humans walk on another world.
Worse, when it became a fad that America got tired of and shut down.
Quote: Originally posted by TheRealMe: I was a boy when Apollo 11 landed on the moon. I was sitting there watching the TV with my family when Armstrong took his famous step. It's something that I will never forget.
It is astounding to me that nearly 40 years have passed since that day.
And it is sad to me that younger people... even folks in their late 30s and early 40s... just can't know what that experience was like, when we watched humans walk on another world.
Worse, when it became a fad that America got tired of and shut down.
To me, it was like a magic time.
It was the same for me. 40 years later and unfortunately the space program has never done anything as exciting.
With what Hollywood can do with CGI and VFX these days, I have no doubt that a few hundred years from now (if we don't kill ourselves first) some will have difficulties telling the difference between the real and the imagined of things that existed during the 20th and 21st centuries.
With what Hollywood can do with CGI and VFX these days, I have no doubt that a few hundred years from now (if we don't kill ourselves first) some will have difficulties telling the difference between the real and the imagined of things that existed during the 20th and 21st centuries.
Sad, but interesting article Haken. I'd wager that these moon-landing non-believers would be the same ilk as those who believe that Bush blew up the World Trade Towers. As for your hope to have humanity around in a few hundred years, I think it un-likely.
PHOENIXROSE It hurts sometimes more than we can bear. If we could live without passion, maybe we'd know some kind of peace.
Friday, July 17, 2009 - 20:31
Quote: Originally posted by Haken: But Hollywood has, which sort of makes the whole idea of the moon landing being fake more credible with each passing decade.
No, it doesn't. Just because they might be able to do it now doesn't mean they could (or did) forty years ago. It was a great accomplishment, one that hasn't been replicated because it was also a very expensive accomplishment. If people were willing to dump the same kind of money on space travel that gets dumped into wars, odds are a man would have walked on Mars by now. But, it seems, people just aren't that smart, and more people are interested in conflict than exploration, and that's a shame. But there was a moment when that exploration captured everyone's attention, imagination, and heart. That shouldn't be devalued.
The "Federal" Reserve Bank Corp is still not a govt agency and has never been audited and exports all voluntary IRS income taxes to foreign banksters to overthrow USA. Suckers. www.freedomtofascism.com
Quote: "Not one dime of income taxes goes to support any federal program." -President Ronald Reagan, right before George Bushes' CIA cousin John Hinkley Jr shot him (now released from loonybin by George W Bush)
"So I can hear what you're saying: 'But you guys replicated the moon shot on a set, and you're special effects artists. You're exactly the kind of guys that NASA would've hired to do this kind of thing in the first place!'" -Adam Savage, Youtube 3:35. No rocket flame on LEM "blastoff" at 0:01. HA! Mythbusters BUSTED
Never mind all that deadly gamma rays, x-rays and 6-million-mph nuke particles, or 400-degree F with no shade.
"Chain of custody" is a legal requirement in every courtroom. NASA blew it by losing all video and computer tapes and doctoring all photos of Apollo. These "new" lunar orbital photos also fail the Best Evidence Rule, when the first photos taken show no landers. Police routinely stage crime scenes to win convictions of innocent people, and FBI crime lab has been busted faking evidence so many times even fed judges don't believe them anymore.
Tip for the wise, never trust psychopathic serial-killing mass-murdering criminals to tell the truth about anything, even about taking pictures of the Moon/moon. You do realize NASA Nazis genocided 25,000 slaves in their underground ICBM factory at Nordhausen?
Apollo 11 astronots refuse to swear on a Bible they walked on the Moon, even when you pay them: www.moonmovie.com
If aliens landed in spaceships tomorrow, how many sheeple would question those photos on TV?
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Saturday, July 18, 2009 - 07:41
Quote: Originally posted by Peulsar5:
Quote: Originally posted by piratenews:
Apollo 11 astronots refuse to swear on a Bible they walked on the Moon, even when you pay them: www.moonmovie.com
And we have to pay them to see the evidence. Don't you love this country?
Buzz Aldrin actually sues people who use NASA photos of him on the "moon", claiming copyright infringement for historic govt photos.
Let's give Apollo astronots the benefit of the doubt, and say they did walk on The Moon, then return safely to Earth, using exactly the same flimsy spacecraft (their words).
How would these Apollo military combat fighter pilots handle doubters? By punching reporters in the face on TV? No.
They would talk their frakkin ears off bragging about all the boring details of their flight. I've interviewed World War 2 combat vets shot down over Nazi Germany. We toured the combat museums in England, actually climbed inside a B17. My news articles about those interviews were published in magazines all over the world, and got my uncle invited to the White House, and no his daughter is now a judge on TN Supreme Court. www.geocities.com/snetterton_b17_pow_mia
NOBODY HAS EVER BEEN ALLOWED INSIDE AN APOLLO LEM, which is standing room only, and impossible to exit the hatch in a spacesuit. Why are there no museums with even mockups of LEMS for kids to play in?
When Neil Armstrong went to Bohemian Grove to speak to the rich and famous nudist colony, he never once mentioned Apollo.
With what Hollywood can do with CGI and VFX these days, I have no doubt that a few hundred years from now (if we don't kill ourselves first) some will have difficulties telling the difference between the real and the imagined of things that existed during the 20th and 21st centuries.
Kubrick's 2001 shows Moon rockets with no interior sound and no rocket exhaust, just like Apollo. Some say he directed the Apollo programming.
CNN still can't bring itself to admit the "Federal" Reserve Bank Corporation is a private bank that's never been audited since its illegal creation in 1917, that counterfeits all "US dollars" and exports all IRS income taxes to foreign bankers.
But CNN has hot disinfobabes. Who needs a brain when you have plastic boobies?
"Most of the people will have died and the rest of us will be cannibals. We're too many people; that's why we have global warming. Everybody in the world's got to pledge to themselves that one or two children. Communist China just wants to sell us shoes. They're not building landing craft to attack the United States, and Russia wants to be our friends, too. It's been a long time since anybody caught me saying something stupid. A total world population of 250-300 million people, a 95% decline from present levels, would be ideal." -Ted Turner, owner of CNN News, who paid himself a $3-billion paycheck in one day and flies a private jet from his 25,000 acre cattle ranch
With what Hollywood can do with CGI and VFX these days, I have no doubt that a few hundred years from now (if we don't kill ourselves first) some will have difficulties telling the difference between the real and the imagined of things that existed during the 20th and 21st centuries.
Kubrick's 2001 shows Moon rockets with no interior sound and no rocket exhaust, just like Apollo. Some say he directed the Apollo programming.
CNN still can't bring itself to admit the "Federal" Reserve Bank Corporation is a private bank that's never been audited since its illegal creation in 1917, that counterfeits all "US dollars" and exports all IRS income taxes to foreign bankers.
But CNN has hot disinfobabes. Who needs a brain when you have plastic boobies?
"Most of the people will have died and the rest of us will be cannibals. We're too many people; that's why we have global warming. Everybody in the world's got to pledge to themselves that one or two children. Communist China just wants to sell us shoes. They're not building landing craft to attack the United States, and Russia wants to be our friends, too. It's been a long time since anybody caught me saying something stupid. A total world population of 250-300 million people, a 95% decline from present levels, would be ideal." -Ted Turner, owner of CNN News, who paid himself a $3-billion paycheck in one day and flies a private jet from his 25,000 acre cattle ranch
On the day Walter Cronkite died, I'm certainly not going to argue the "plastic" nature of news. I'll give you that one.
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Officially the Angriest Man on the Internet™.
Sunday, July 19, 2009 - 13:53
Quote: They would talk their frakkin ears off bragging about all the boring details of their flight. I've interviewed World War 2 combat vets shot down over Nazi Germany.
Tell me, did you start your "interview" by telling them that they were lying and never flew in the planes in the first place, and that we never went to war against Nazi Germany?
Quote: Originally posted by Jongsstraw: 40 years later and unfortunately the space program has never done anything as exciting.
I've been glued to NASA-TV every minute that a Space Shuttle mission is in progress, especially during ISS construction!
People complain about "all that money we waste" on the Space Program, and I just have to ask "All what money? NASA gets $17 billion versus the Military's $500 billion!" I think spaceflight is somewhat more constructive than war. Actually, it's the coolest thing humans do!
I don't understand why only going to the Moon or Mars counts as a "real" space program. Anywhere humans can't go outside without their blood boiling is Real Space, as far as I'm concerned. And I'd rather visit LEO than the Moon, anyway! On the ISS, you can hold a 600-pound piece of equipment effortlessly with your fingertips... On the Moon, that'll still weigh 100 pounds! I've got a bad back, so I have trouble lifting even 50 pounds. When you go EVA on the ISS, you stay nice & shiny clean — on the Moon, not so much...
Quote: Originally posted by Jongsstraw: 40 years later and unfortunately the space program has never done anything as exciting.
I've been glued to NASA-TV every minute that a Space Shuttle mission is in progress, especially during ISS construction!
People complain about "all that money we waste" on the Space Program, and I just have to ask "All what money? NASA gets $17 billion versus the Military's $500 billion!" I think spaceflight is somewhat more constructive than war. Actually, it's the coolest thing humans do!
I don't understand why only going to the Moon or Mars counts as a "real" space program. Anywhere humans can't go outside without their blood boiling is Real Space, as far as I'm concerned. And I'd rather visit LEO than the Moon, anyway! On the ISS, you can hold a 600-pound piece of equipment effortlessly with your fingertips... On the Moon, that'll still weigh 100 pounds! I've got a bad back, so I have trouble lifting even 50 pounds. When you go EVA on the ISS, you stay nice & shiny clean — on the Moon, not so much...
I do the same thing. Especially during spacewalks.
Do you know of a website where you can listen to old mission audio from Apollo, Mercury or Gemini? I'm noe talking about snippets; I mean from the beginning of the mission to the end.
Quote: Originally posted by Peulsar5: Do you know of a website where you can listen to old mission audio from Apollo, Mercury or Gemini? I'm noe talking about snippets; I mean from the beginning of the mission to the end.
According to that CNN article I posted upthread...
Quote: Stoll said he and other NASA employees in Houston, Texas, are in the process of digitizing NASA’s entire audio collection, most of which is on old-fashioned tape. The older tapes, like the ones from Apollo missons, are in great conditon and are kept under strict environmental controls, he said. But newer tapes, like those from the 1980s, tend to gum up reel players. He has to heat those tapes to 130 degrees with a small oven before he can play them.
All of that work will soon culminate in a public Web site where people can listen to NASA audio from many other U.S. space missions.
That site should go up in two months or so, he said.
Quote: Originally posted by Peulsar5: Do you know of a website where you can listen to old mission audio from Apollo, Mercury or Gemini? I'm noe talking about snippets; I mean from the beginning of the mission to the end.
According to that CNN article I posted upthread...
Quote: Stoll said he and other NASA employees in Houston, Texas, are in the process of digitizing NASA’s entire audio collection, most of which is on old-fashioned tape. The older tapes, like the ones from Apollo missons, are in great conditon and are kept under strict environmental controls, he said. But newer tapes, like those from the 1980s, tend to gum up reel players. He has to heat those tapes to 130 degrees with a small oven before he can play them.
All of that work will soon culminate in a public Web site where people can listen to NASA audio from many other U.S. space missions.
That site should go up in two months or so, he said.
Oh, man! That worked perfect! I was running this great video of the last 15 minutes of the landing... http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a11/A11Landing.mov ...which starts right at 102:30:45 GET, when Buzz says "Verb 77", and reading along with the Lunar Surface Journal... http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a11/a11.landing.html ...while listening to the mission audio. My adrenaline was pumpin', boy!
Too bad all the graphical elements on that WeChooseTheMoon site shut down after lunar contact! Don't they realize there's more to this mission than just the landing? At least the audio runs 'til splashdown. http://www.nasa.gov/externalflash/apollo11_radio/
Gonna be listening all the way past the EVA. A little while ago, the PAO (Public Affairs Officer) made an interesting comment...
Quote: Meanwhile, as we'll soon be progressing toward man's first step on the lunar surface, we have an interesting phenomena here in the mission control center, Houston. Something we've never seen before. Our visual of the lunar module, our visual display now standing still. Our velocity digitals for Tranquility Base now reading zero. Reverting, if we could, to the terminology of an earlier form of transportion, the railroad: What we're witnessing now, is man's very first trip into space with a station stop along the route.
Quote: Originally posted by Haken: But Hollywood has, which sort of makes the whole idea of the moon landing being fake more credible with each passing decade.
No, it doesn't. Just because they might be able to do it now doesn't mean they could (or did) forty years ago. It was a great accomplishment, one that hasn't been replicated because it was also a very expensive accomplishment. If people were willing to dump the same kind of money on space travel that gets dumped into wars, odds are a man would have walked on Mars by now. But, it seems, people just aren't that smart, and more people are interested in conflict than exploration, and that's a shame. But there was a moment when that exploration captured everyone's attention, imagination, and heart. That shouldn't be devalued.
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That's the smartest-ever post from you , P-R , that I can recall...Good on you !
I believe that the United States could have had a manned Moonbase AND a manned mission to Mars , for a fraction of the cost of the Iraq war alone...
In other Space News , astronauts aboard the Space Station fixed the crapper :
'...Space station astronauts repaired a broken toilet in the U.S Destiny laboratory today, replacing components that were contaminated during a malfunction Sunday. After tests to make sure the complex system was operating properly, flight controllers cleared the combined 13-member shuttle-station crew to resume normal use.
The toilet broke down Sunday when chemically treated water flooded a pump and contaminated other downstream equipment. The astronauts removed access panels and replaced a half-dozen components during work Sunday and Monday.
While that was going on, the shuttle's seven-member crew was restricted to using Endeavour's on-board toilet and the six-man station crew was told to use the potty in the Russian Zvezda command module.
Going into Endeavour's mission, NASA planned for several shuttle crew members to use the toilet in the Destiny module to avoid filling up the shuttle's waste water tank. Normally, the tank is vented overboard when it nears a full load, but that was not an option for Endeavour's crew. Docked to the front of the station near the Japanese Kibo module, the shuttle's waste water nozzle could have contaminated experiment attachment fittings on the newly installed Japanese Exposed Facility.
But given the quick repair of Destiny's waste and hygiene compartment - and assuming no other problems develop - engineers said the shuttle waste water tank was in no danger of filling up before Endeavour undocks at the end of the mission.'
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