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Originally posted by AURaptor: You're nothing but a mind numbed robot who is dead set to parrot back administration talking points.
Those are not talking points, those are facts.
I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.
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KWICKO
Officially the Angriest Man on the Internet™.
Science flies people to the Moon; religion flies people into buildings.
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January 2009: NYSE @ just over 8000.
January 2012: NYSE @ just over 12,700.
According to math, that's "better".
"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill
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GEEZER
Rule 35: That which does not kill me has made a tactical error
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Originally posted by kpo: I hear people use this kind of language all the time when they're being emphatic, or just lazy. I'd say Obama's speechwriters were being both here; it probably could've been worded better - something just as emphatic, but less ambiguous.
And I would suggest that the text of the State of the Union address is reviewed and edited and honed until it says exactly what the president and his party want it to say. I doubt that there's a single word in it that's not discussed and argued over. If the president wanted to convey that we can keep "some of", or "most of", or "a good part of" our investments, he would have said so. He didn't.
And again, in the talking points his own web site takes from the State of the Union address, the only one relating to reducing the deficit is the one about increases taxes on the rich. I suspect that that is by design as well.
"Keep the Shiny side up"
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Rappy does not believe in math. He thinks it is some kind of plot by the left.
I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.
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AURAPTOR
Three-point, four-hour, should do it.
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Originally posted by Kwicko: January 2009: NYSE @ just over 8000.
January 2012: NYSE @ just over 12,700.
According to math, that's "better".
NYSE isn't the economy though. That's a complete red herring, Kwickie. It's just one aspect of economic activity. You ignore all the other items, and focus on just that ONE, which has its own natural recovery pattern built into it. Where have Obama's polices shown to add in this recovery ?
Storybook - When you say h-care WILL BE less expensive, because of ObamsCare , when it's only gone up since it was passed, isn't a "fact", it's a talking point.
Maybe some day you'll learn the difference.
" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "
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SHADOWCAPTAIN
CAPTAIN 平静 TRANQUILITY 平静
Flagship of the 'Virtual Firefly Fleet' and
Sister-ship to Serenity.
..........."God's welcome on My boat....... the Alliance ain't."
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Hey 6 (are you related to caprica 6 ?) Just kidding but what an awesome remake huh? BSG is great.
It's cool that u may buy WBDs book after the interview - you could buy it before so you can ask him something right out of it but you sound like you know your WBD trivia anyway.
Yes, 8est is 7 central, 5 pacific (I still have to do the math sometimes) glad you're gonna try to be there. Like I said I'll look for 6ixString (or similar) in the chat. The way I need to do this type of open forum chat is to start with everyone muted to minimize background noise ( prob be a ton of people there). When u have a question just type in the chat "I have a question" or similar, and I'll unmute you when I can. Hope to see you sat at 8pm, 7 central at www.talkshoe.com enter call # 91161 or search for x-files truth.
http://xfilestruth.com/
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Enjoy life in your bubble. The rest of us will stay out here where words actually mean what they mean, instead of what you would like to interpret them as.
Its clearly no longer worth discussing with you, as you are chewing the same stale soup over and over and hoping it will taste different each time.
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"Sleeping in class? What do you have to say for yourself?" "That it'd be easier without all that 'teaching' going on."
Is that from "Fast Times at Ridgemont High" (Mr. Hand and Spicoli)?
The Codex Menduri: http://mendur.blogspot.com
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New from Blue Sun! Life-size Barbie with ruffled party dress! (Available in limited edition on Persephone)
The Codex Menduri: http://mendur.blogspot.com
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FRIDAY IS HERE!! Chicken wings and BEER!
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Originally posted by AURaptor: NYSE isn't the economy though. That's a complete red herring, Kwickie. It's just one aspect of economic activity. You ignore all the other items, and focus on just that ONE, which has its own natural recovery pattern built into it. Where have Obama's polices shown to add in this recovery ?
Storybook - When you say h-care WILL BE less expensive, because of ObamsCare , when it's only gone up since it was passed, isn't a "fact", it's a talking point.
Maybe some day you'll learn the difference.
Those other items show that the economy is getting betters as well.
There is no natural pattern of recovery.
The full health care reform has not gone into effect yet.
Now take these medicated pads to help with your massive butthurt.
I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.
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You do realise that Ron Paul's idealogy would have him remove most government regulation, including environmental ones. So things such as fracking would only get worse.
Oh, and just because you don't like your choices does not mean they are not choices.
I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.
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AURAPTOR
Three-point, four-hour, should do it.
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Originally posted by m52nickerson:
The full health care reform has not gone into effect yet.
Now take these medicated pads to help with your massive butthurt.
Hopefully, O-Care will NEVER go into effect. As is, the prospect of it taking root is already driving up costs.
Why should I expect anything else other than some juvenile, idiot response from you with this idiotic 'butthurt' remark.
America is gonna need full body medicated pads, if Obama gets a 2nd term.
" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "
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Originally posted by AURaptor: America is gonna need full body medicated pads, if Obama gets a 2nd term.
Okay, at least with the health care reform insurance will cover that.
I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.
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AURAPTOR
Three-point, four-hour, should do it.
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As for scenario #1 , there's a small problem.
Most RVs capable of showing up are already getting pimped and primed for the start of the NASCAR 2012 schedule.
The Daytona 500 is coming up , in just a couple of weeks.
" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "
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SIGNYM
You speak of 'the young, the old, the sick' as if they're an endangered species- ....AND... Freedom fails is if it's oppressed and crushed, by pure democracy-Rappy
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However, when a President , who is much younger and taller than the female Gov of AZ, grabs her by the elbow and sternly lectures her as he wags his finger in HER face, she's not allowed to wave her finger back in HIS face, even though he started it.
Well, I don't have $10,000 to throw around, but I'll offer you a whole $20 if you can come up with a video clip that supports your story. 
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SIGNYM
You speak of 'the young, the old, the sick' as if they're an endangered species- ....AND... Freedom fails is if it's oppressed and crushed, by pure democracy-Rappy
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In some parliaments, discussion gets a bit rowdy and punches are thrown. And since the head of the majority party is the Prime Minister, he or she is often in the scrum too.
I really have no problem with that. What I truly dislike are any rules (such as the fillibuster) which require a "supermajority" on ANYTHING. The other thing I truly dislike are "riders" on bills. Those are totally inappropriate readings of the democratic process.
The Senate (and the House) need to get their shit together, and craft clean bills for a straight up or down vote. If they can't do that, they need to be thrown out on their collective ears and then we can start over.
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AURAPTOR
Three-point, four-hour, should do it.
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Originally posted by m52nickerson:
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Originally posted by AURaptor: America is gonna need full body medicated pads, if Obama gets a 2nd term.
Okay, at least with the health care reform insurance will cover that.
An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure...
Nip it in the bud, before it gets worse. Before it gets a lot worse.
" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "
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AURAPTOR
Three-point, four-hour, should do it.
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Originally posted by SignyM:
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However, when a President , who is much younger and taller than the female Gov of AZ, grabs her by the elbow and sternly lectures her as he wags his finger in HER face, she's not allowed to wave her finger back in HIS face, even though he started it.
Well, I don't have $10,000 to throw around, but I'll offer you a whole $20 if you can come up with a video clip that supports your story. 
Pay up $10, then. I've already posted 2 links which shows Obama grabbing her elbow. Of course, the MSM won't dare show his finger wag, so I guess that never happened.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "
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Nick
I don't believe the EPA is effective. I don't want to see it repealed to make corporations lives easier as Romney would do, but I think that Paul's idea of replacing it with new environmental property rights might be more effective, I do not thing it would make fracking worse, but rather make careless frackers targets of massive lawsuits.
I was holding onto the idea that Obama was somehow better than the opposition, but at the moment I can't, because he seems to just be bad on every score. My point about dictatorship and the lack of choice is really that I don't think Obama is personally the most evil person in the world in his head, but he's very close to the most evil person in the world in practice, and to figure out why that is you have to look to the process by which things get done.
Humor me for a sec. I know we're both dems, and you're a fair amount to the left of me, but what we believe doesn't seem to have much to do with what our candidates do. Here's how I think it works:
Various power groups who possess organizations for running campaigns and govt. affairs; people with lots of money; people who have issuing power of currency; people who control mass influence enterprises like the mainstream media and international energy cartels; these groups all exert influence over the politicians, write policy, and support candidates the most in line with them or the most willing to bend in their direction. The result is an Obama administration that despite whatever he may believe, results in a policy of about 100% of what the backers believe and about 0% of what Obama believes.
Paul has the advantage of being singularly uncompromising. That's what makes him better, not that I ultimately agree with him on everything, because I don't.
Romney and Gingrich are arch-compromisers, but at this level of "let the bad guys get whatever they want" it doesn't matter if Obama compromises 95% of the way and Gingrich 96% and Romney 97%, it's sort of splitting hairs at that point. It's like saying "oh, the bad guys will always get what they want, and will always add it to the evils of the last administration thus guaranteeing that every administration will be worse than the last."
Yeah, sure, it will, as long as we continue to accept this compromising with evil in exchange for 5% of a progressive agenda. I don't think that's an acceptable compromise, it seems to me more like unconditional surrender to the powers that be.
That's what a ship is, you know - it's not just a keel and a hull and a deck and sails, that's what a ship needs.
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SIGNYM
You speak of 'the young, the old, the sick' as if they're an endangered species- ....AND... Freedom fails is if it's oppressed and crushed, by pure democracy-Rappy
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I saw the picture, but who started the confrontation? It's entirely possible that Obama grabbed her elbow to fend her off because she was wagging her finger in his face. So the only thing that'll do is a video clip from beginning to end. In this day and age of smart-phone videos, surely there must be one around somewhere proving your point. (If you get the reference to people allegedly shouting "nigger" at two black Congressmen, then you get bonus points- but alas, no additional money! ) At this point, is there any way to say for sure what happened, aside from your say-so? Also- where did you get "YOUR" version? From a media person or politician who never lies?
As you see, with my starting point of doubting pretty much everyone, but especially the media and politicians, about 98% of what I read goes into the "possibly true" bucket, to be correlated with other statements and other facts, and then to use logic to see which ones make the most sense. What that means is abut 80% of what I read goes into the trashbin, where it belongs.
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Actually Rappy, yours is the talking point, as significant portions of the cost reduction calculated in ObamaCare kicks in after the programs are running in full in 2014 w the health care insurances exchanges running, and some of the other provisions.
U are correct when you state that health care costs have gone up. Im quite confident you either dont know or wont admit what the reason for that is: Insurance companies have jacked up their rates before the more restrivtive provisions on yearly increases and barring of coverage denial have come on line, most of which is scheduled for 2014.
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Originally posted by Bytemite: ...I'm not sure where you were going with that? The healthcare plan is a gimee to the insurance industry, but the rest we haven't seen fallout from yet - heck, the GM thing is already passed by, they paid back everything within a few months.
If you mean they all added to the deficit, okay, yes, that's a problem, but what you said suggested the consequences are immediately observable around us right now.
Not sure where you're getting your information. As of December the US still owned 25% of GM. That's about 500 million shares. That's a surefire conflict of interest.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/gm-should-buy-back-us-taxpayers-shares/2011/12/05/gIQAvC7rXO_story.html
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I don't know how far we are going to get simple because we have vastly different outlooks, but...
Individual environmental property rights is an interesting concept until you start to ask who could sue and for what. You may own a piece of property, but you don't own the air above it. If a stream runs through you property can someone draw all the water out up stream while it is on their property? Then you have to look at how well lawsuits really work. Yes people might be able to win a large suit after they prove a company contaminated their well, but that damage has already been done. Not to mention the cost of those suits.
I thin the EPA may be slow, but I think it is effective. More so if the politicians would leave it alone.
I also don't see corporations or the very rich as evil entities. I don't agree with everything they do, but they do serve a purpose. Of course those powerful will support those whose ideals are closest to theirs, or might help their agenda. Ron Paul has a super pack as well.
Obama may not have followed everything he said while trying to become president but if people really were paying attention he is pretty much as advertised. He has also had to compromise to get things passed. Nothing that has gotten passed is a secret. The bills are all their for people to read.
I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.
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Originally posted by Bytemite: ...I'm not sure where you were going with that? The healthcare plan is a gimee to the insurance industry, but the rest we haven't seen fallout from yet - heck, the GM thing is already passed by, they paid back everything within a few months.
If you mean they all added to the deficit, okay, yes, that's a problem, but what you said suggested the consequences are immediately observable around us right now.
Not sure where you're getting your information. As of December the US still owned 25% of GM. That's about 500 million shares. That's a surefire conflict of interest.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/gm-should-buy-back-us-taxpayers-shares/2011/12/05/gIQAvC7rXO_story.html[/quote]
GM payed back the cash loan they were given by the government. The government also bought a large sum of stock, which it still owns. Which the government coudl sell if it wanted to.
I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.
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AURAPTOR
Three-point, four-hour, should do it.
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BHM - govt regulated 'cost reduction ' measures will, unquestionably, increase costs and limit availability. You claiming otherwise is itself a talking point. It comes down to, yes, simple math. There are x number of doctors able to provide services for the population. When you artificially raise the number of visitors to a limited number of doctors, cost will go up, and care will go down. Period, end of discussion.
ETA - Also, you speak of the full measures not kicking in until '14 ? There are also a lot of doctors who are already in the process of closing their doors and retiring, rather than deal w/ the bureaucratic nightmare that will be O-Care, should it ever be fully implemented.
Think DMV meets the VA Hospitals, and you've got O-Care.
" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "
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Originally posted by AURaptor: BHM - govt regulated 'cost reduction ' measures will, unquestionably, increase costs and limit availability. You claiming otherwise is itself a talking point. It comes down to, yes, simple math. There are x number of doctors able to provide services for the population. When you artificially raise the number of visitors to a limited number of doctors, cost will go up, and care will go down. Period, end of discussion.
ETA - Also, you speak of the full measures not kicking in until '14 ? There are also a lot of doctors who are already in the process of closing their doors and retiring, rather than deal w/ the bureaucratic nightmare that will be O-Care, should it ever be fully implemented.
Think DMV meets the VA Hospitals, and you've got O-Care.
" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "
The health care reforms does not change anything for doctors as far as their paperwork. Don't agree, cite the changes from the reform. You fail there.
Everyone in this country get some type of health care now. Even those who can't afford it still get care when needed. Demaind will decrease over time because it is a lot easier to deal with things before people have to got to emergency rooms. You fail again.
I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.
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Sadly for your argument, I have multiple doctors in the family.
U have no idea the hassles doctors deal with from insurance companies, and how much their costs have increased from drug companies.
The insurance cos. dont pay, or they dont pay on time, or they dont pay what they say they will. They restrict what treatments can be offerred to certain patients.
Its a nightmare. The doctors u cite as closing up shop? They r doing it because they can no longer compete as small practices because of the cost and difficulty they experience when they are getting squeezed between Big Pharma and Big Insurance. General practic physicians are rapidly becoming a thing of the past, and this is pre-Obamacare, not post.
The Affordable Care Act cleans up some of these problems, but sadly not all of them.
The doctors in my family are very eagerly awaiting some of these provisions to SIMPLIFY their paperwork and payment processess.
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Originally posted by Zeek: Currently I'll go with The New Girl. Their delivery of lines is really well done. The main character and the character named Schmidt are really funny. The other main characters are mainly there just to set those two up for jokes IMO.
Aw that show is great. I haven't seen much of it, but what I have seen is hilarious. And the dynamic between the characters is so sweet. I guess I like when characters actually seem to care that much about each other.
I don't really like Big Bang Theory, because of the girl character (Penny, right?). For one thing, it seems as though the guys are only friends with her because she is pretty. Plus she is always trying to get them to be less nerdy, or making fun of them for being who they are. A lot of times the impression I get from that show is just like "hahah look at how weird nerds are!"
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She's darker than I imagined. You have to set her in pretty good lighting to see contrast in the coloring. The windows aren't dark, so the cockpit looks flat. She looks 'boarded up' from the inside. The overall shape and little details are fine, but there's something soulless or dingy about the model.

It doesn't help that one of the heat exchangers is broken and she's bent out of true in places.




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I can be terse. Once in flight school, I was laconic.
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Nope. It's from a fairly obscure cartoon (based on a european comic series).
----- We applied the cortical electrodes but were unable to get a neural reaction from either patient.
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That'd be great!
It's going to be a fun filled weekend of paintball and Firefly.
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Yeah, GM stocks versus loans etc.
Look, I don't even like Obama, I think he has been and all his policies will be disasterous. But I'm looking for what is immediately evident in the economy that suggests the fault of his policies. Unemployment? Business Growth? What specifically are you talking about?
I think that except for the bailouts, which wasn't all Obama, Obama has done nothing that has impacted the economy, for positive or negative. He's a pretty worthless president IMO. The economy has done its own thing, as per usual, and it's almost some kind of magical thinking for anyone to believe they have any influence over it. The only thing I think anyone can do including government and business is keep down the debt, don't cheat the system, and don't make business models based on some concept of money for nothing. But you don't notice the positive effects from that, you only notice the negative effects if they don't.
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<font color=#9999CC><font face="Comic Sans MS">So funny, watching you guys hit them with facts and he/they dodge and weave. Glad you're enjoying yourselves...realizing full well he/they'll NEVER admit to any of them. Ignoring the fact that insurance companies have jacked their prices enormously in expectation of Obamacare being complete (gee, wasn't that all OVER the news a while back? I know it was in California, where we got major jack-ups of costs), and all the other dodges and weaves...amusing. For a minute or two at least.
Just wanted to pop in to say I heard the actual clip last night, and Obama didn't PROMISE...he said that IF he didn't get all this fixed, it would probably turn out to be a one-term Presidency. In other words, he didn't say he'd quit, he said he'd probably lose a second term...which it looks like, at this point, he won't. We may be in deep shit with Israel/Iran, numbers may go up and down, but what's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander:Quote:
OBAMAmade an effort,( though half-hearted, imo ) to deal w/ the very real crisis that America was in when he took office. He couldn't get Congress to go along w/ him, and so naturally, his plan never got any traction. He tried, at least.
I'll settle for that.

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Silvia receives the news via earTwit: Her patron saint Anna Wintour is coming out of cryo within the week. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Swimsuit edition? What's a swimsuit? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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I think my son finds Sheldon visually funny and he like the reactionary things he says
Last night's episode was great
To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others. --Francois Mauriac It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.
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<font color=#9999CC><font face="Comic Sans MS">"grabs her by the elbow"...no proof, just a shot of him possibly holding her elbow, or touching it, or doing something else with his arm. "Grabs" is totally made up.
"sternly lectures her"...not only no proof, but a projection...HER mouth is wide open, indicting raised tone of voice (I hadn't noticed that gaping may before!); HIS mouth is not only closed, there is the whisper of a smile on it.
"wags his finger"...reeely reaching. There is not a shred of evidence to support it. If anyone doesn't think the media would have ADORED a shot of that happening, they're out of their mind! Not to mention that there was NO indication of that having happened from anyone who was there. I know, it's a conspiracy by everyone who was in attendance to keep such a vital secret from the public. You betcha.
No winners here; not even a serious try.

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While I can certainly appreciate the frustration of buying a model or statue, and having it arrive broken - I have to say, pieces falling off, and being a little bend off center feels fairly appropriate for Serenity.
"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"
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Originally posted by dreamtrove: Even the most right wing republicans didn't defend Bush like this,
BWAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHA.
Thanks for starting my day with a chuckle.
"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"
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<font color=#9999CC><font face="Comic Sans MS">Won't address #1, it's too ridiculous to address. Except that it's pretty obvious the people who live/work there would complain first and loudest and demand police presence, and the police would get rid of them post haste, plus more than a few OWSers would probably go over to join them. As for #2, aside from being equally absurd, it wouldn't work. For one thing, a "consensus" has to be reached, but more importantly, there's this thing called a "block"...which I won't detail as obviously you have no interest, let the words suffice. If one is offered, the issue has to be debated and accommodations made (if possible) to get the person to remove the block. That entails time, discussion, modification, etc., which I have no doubt your 10,000 would neither stick around for, participate in, or do so with any civility.

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Originally posted by Kwicko: January 2009: NYSE @ just over 8000.
January 2012: NYSE @ just over 12,700.
According to math, that's "better".
NYSE isn't the economy though. That's a complete red herring, Kwickie.
Hilarious from a chump who kept insisting the economy was "on fire" under Bush, using similar, one-sided indicators.
"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"
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<font color=#9999CC><font face="Comic Sans MS">Amen. I'm amazed you kept it up this long.

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Storybook - When you say h-care WILL BE less expensive, because of ObamsCare , when it's only gone up since it was passed, isn't a "fact", it's a talking point.
I never said that, nimrod.
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Maybe some day you'll learn the difference.
Alas, you've proven you never will.
"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"
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Water rights allotments generally are used to prevent people from just taking all the water out of a stream away from those downstream (or polluting it so it's unusable). Though it's not perfect, and in order to work, it can't just be stagnant and volume based, but has to consider changing water conditions, a good idea of average yearly flow, and percentages. That's probably something that needs to be fixed, but to a degree it's workable. You could do something similar with the air, because air also has a flow.
I'd also say that polluting businesses have become a lot more interested in pursuing clean-up and environmentally friendly practices lately. Not out of altruism or because they care for anything but their bottom line, but because the banks are putting pressure on them to avoid the liability issues. And the big hit from liability isn't actually the government fines, it's the class action lawsuits. There's an order of magnitude difference. For small businesses it's tens of thousands of dollars for the fines, versus millions for civil settlements. Then look at a big business, like BP and the oil spill - the government only got BP to put aside about 20 million dollars to pay out to victims of that. It'd be much higher if the victims could pursue a lawsuit, but it looks like they can't.
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<font color=#9999CC><font face="Comic Sans MS">I assume you're talking about toy poodles? Because Standard Poodles are fantastic dogs and really smart, I've known quite a few, and yes, their funny cut (which has been exaggerated out of proportion for "style") had a purpose in the first place.
Frem, as I should have said, aside from big and small dogs getting a rap which isn't necessarily true, the fact is that the dog reflects the owner, period. Good owners make good dogs; I have NEVER seen otherwise. There can be good people who have become silly about their dogs and anthromorphize them (as in letting them have their own way) and ended up not being alpha, which confuses the dog and can make them neurotic, but the truth is a dog is a reflection of its owner, period.
Pits were NOT bred to fight dogs; they were bred to fight bulls...hence the name (fighting the bull in the pit). Yes, in more recent times they've been bred to fight other dogs, but that took their original breeding and gave it a different target, that's all. And I know many, many pits who don't fight, while my huskies (which are well known not to be fighters) will fight back energetically if somene else starts it. Not as to the death...and again, pits were bred to hang on, no matter what, which explains in part HOW they fight, but nonetheless...
Pits and those like them ("bully breeds" they're called) are usually FANTASTIC with kids, by the way. It's one of the things most noted about the breed in breed descriptions. They're very gentle and put up with a lot.
Definitely a lot of small dogs yap because it's just part of their nature, just as huskies "talk". We get a lot of attention from other drivers when we're getting close to any place they know, as they talk their way there from about a mile or two out. Hard to have a conversation. I know many small dogs at the dog park which will chase the big dogs, barking and yapping, and mean no harm whatsoever.
While "big" and "little" get their various raps, there IS truth to breeds...at least generally speaking. Akitas are often very alpha; shephards are smart, but as I put up once, Borders are so smart they (and no other breed) are on the "top ten smartest animals" list; labs and retrievers, I like to tell their owners when I meet them, were born without the "unhappy" gene...they simply don't know how to do it unless badly abused. Beagles do NOT know they're small dogs and would rather play with the big dogs than dogs their size, and so on. Again, the dog reflects the owner, that's the one "universal", but there are traits that are generally breed-specific. They're working, for example, to breed out the instinctive dislike of Rhodies for Black people, as they were trained as guard dogs during the apartheid times to be so. Huskies were BRED to be independent, as I've said before; if the musher said "gee" ("right") and there's an invisible chasm there, te huskies know to "haw" ("left"). One of the things which makes them so difficult for people accustomed to pet dogs doing what they're told!
I'm an avid dog person, as nobody here doesn't know by now, and have been interested in different breeds from childhood. I love being able to recognize a breed, or even what two breeds made up the dog (and I'm about 90% right, to people's surprise--especially those who spent the money to have a DNA done...which, to my amazement, a good number of people around here do!). Each breed GENERALLY exhibits its breed's characteristics, and the "big" and "little" things only holds true insofar as small critters of all kinds tend to be more feisty than "big" things (including humans). The single biggest babies in the whole WORLD are Great Danes.
Cave, my sympathies on your loss; unfortunately cancer, dysplasia, breathing problems and other things are the result of too much breeding...all too many breeds have been harmed by it. I'll never forgive them for breeding collies into those pointy-pnosed, dumb dogs you see now...and that's just one example. Our last dog was our once-in-a-lifetime dog, a husky/shephard rescue both Jim and I have agreed was the finest dog we ever had. They don't live long enough, dammit, but I've always felt the pain of losing them so early is the price we pay for all they give us until then. I would never be without a dog; if the day comes when I can't have one, I will cheerfully bid the word adieu. May we ALL have the joy of a once-in-a-lifetime dog, it's very special.

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Originally posted by Cybersnark: Nope. It's from a fairly obscure cartoon (based on a european comic series).
----- We applied the cortical electrodes but were unable to get a neural reaction from either patient.
Hmm. "Code Lyoko"? It's French and it wasn't half bad when I saw it a few years ago. I don't really recall the line but it was set in a school so it fits.
The Codex Menduri: http://mendur.blogspot.com
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<font color=#9999CC><font face="Comic Sans MS">Thank goodness; this one had me really pissed off!Quote:
The Susan G. Komen foundation has reversed a controversial decision not to renew funding for some Planned Parenthood projects, the group said in a statement Friday.
"We want to apologize to the American public for recent decisions that cast doubt upon our commitment to our mission of saving women's lives," the statement said. "We will continue to fund existing grants, including those of Planned Parenthood, and preserve their eligibility to apply for future grants, while maintaining the ability of our affiliates to make funding decisions that meet the needs of their communities."
Planned Parenthood said Tuesday that the foundation had "succumbed to political pressure" by cutting its funding for breast cancer screenings at Planned Parenthood amid increased scrutiny by Congress over how Planned Parenthood provides abortion services.
The decision triggered strong emotions.
In Washington, at least 22 Senate Democrats signed a letter calling on Komen to reconsider its decision.
CREDO, which describes itself as the largest corporate donor to Planned Parenthood, said Thursday that 250,000 of its members had signed a petition urging the Komen Foundation to reverse its decision.
"The move is clearly connected to attempts by Republicans in Congress to defund Planned Parenthood," the organization said in a statement. "In responding to questions about its decision, the foundation cited as its rationale a sham 'investigation' into Planned Parenthood launched by Republican Rep. Cliff Stearns." who the group called "one of the most militant anti-choice members of Congress."
In September, the House Committee on Energy and Commerce, on which the Florida congressman sits, began an investigation into Planned Parenthood over the organization's "compliance with federal restrictions on funding abortions."
New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg also announced that he planned to give $250,000 to the Planned Parenthood Federation of America to help make up for the loss of funding from the Komen foundation, his office said Thursday. Komen Foundation reverses funding decision of Planned Parenthood
The wording is cute; translation: "Let's lay low, and maybe we can defund them quietly when their grant comes up again", but it's a start, and GREAT to see the American public rise up against at least ONE of the dirty tricks the filthy anti-abortion s (there isn't a word bad enough) have come up with. You could see the smoke coming out of my ears on this one; just as the right has determined their actions will solely to be defeat Obama, despite what harm they might bring to the country, the s have long since decided even CONTRACEPTION should be made impossible, despite the harm "no abortion, no way, no how" might do to women.
While the idiotic cries of a "war on religion" (CHRISTIAN religion, of course, they have no problem with a war on other religions) is asinine, there HAS been a very real war on women's rights and health in this country.
So huzzah...until next time.
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<font color=#9999CC><font face="Comic Sans MS">And away we go...Quote:
U.S. Defense Secretary Leon Panetta has come to the conclusion there is a growing likelihood Israel could attack Iran sometime this spring in an effort to destroy its suspected nuclear weapons program, according to a senior administration official.
The official declined to be identified due to the sensitive nature of the information.
Panetta's views were first reported by the Washington Post's David Ignatius, who wrote Panetta "believes there is strong likelihood that Israel will strike Iran in April, May or June - before Iran enters what Israelis described as a 'zone of immunity' to commence building a nuclear bomb."
Asked by reporters in Brussels, where Panetta is attending NATO meetings, the defense secretary refused to comment. But Panetta told reporters the U.S. has "indicated our concerns" to Israel, according to a transcript provided by the Defense Department.
But the official also noted that Israel goes through cycles of making aggressive statements about its intentions toward Iran in an effort to pressure the United States and the West to take more action.
Iran's supreme leader issued a blunt warning Friday that war would be detrimental to the United States - and that Iran is ready to help anyone who confronts "cancerous" Israel.
"You see every now and then in this way they say that all options are on the table. That means even the option of war," Ayatollah Ali Khamenei said during Friday prayers in Tehran. "This is how they make these threats against us.
Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak warned Thursday that Iran may be close to the point "which may render any physical strike as impractical," according to Reuters.
But just a few weeks ago, Barak suggested things were not as urgent, saying an Israeli decision on whether to strike Iran's nuclear program was "very far off."
A "confluence' of intelligence has led Panetta to this conclusion, the official told CNN, but declined to offer any specifics except noting that the United States conducts intelligence operations aimed at Israel as it does with many other allies.
The senior administration official also noted that there is a general understanding in the administration that Israel may have come to the firm conclusion Iran is developing a nuclear weapon. Just last week, the recently retired chief of Israeli military intelligence told CNN's David McKenzie that the "Iranians have already decided that they want nuclear weapons," he said. But he added they haven't decided fully to go through with creating the weapons.
The official U.S. assessment is that Iran has not yet made that decision, the source said.
At a Senate hearing on Tuesday, Central Intelligence Agency Director David Petraeus, who said he has regular discussions with Israel's leadership and intelligence head, noted that "Israel does see this possibility as an existential threat to their country, and I think that it is very important to keep that perspective in mind."
At the same hearing, Director of National Intelligence James Clapper noted the United States works closely with the Israelis and said the notion that Israel could strike is "a very sensitive issue right now."
"This is an area that we are very, very concerned about," Clapper said.
Panetta's press secretary, George Little, declined to comment on the report. Gen. Martin Dempsey, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, recently said it would be premature for the United States to consider striking Iran. http://security.blogs.cnn.com/2012/02/02/panetta-believes-israel-could-strike-iran-this-spring/?hpt=hp_t2
ANY steps Israel takes will blow back on us, and involve us in...well, you know. Scary times ahead.
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Originally posted by Storymark:
I wouldn't worry too much about that budget. It isn't super-huge, but it's not realy small, either. $440 million as a break-even isn't that hard to reach. Captain America is the lowest-grossing Marvel movie to date, and it made $368 million worldwide. Iron Man, the highest so far, brought in $585 million - and that was with lower ticket prices, and no 3D bump. Id expect Avengers to do at least $500 million internationally.
Thanks for the info. I figure the release date in May is the optimum time for a summer movie. It will have sort of a jump start to the long list of summer movies, and generally audiences are eager to see the first "big" summer movie. I think you're right that it will do just fine at the box office. I'm not that big a fan of 3-D, but I plan on seeing it twice. Once for each format.
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Heh, u would be surprised what spare time and a slooooow work environment will tolerate.
Thanks to Congress shitting all over the country last summer, hiring has gone back down the tubes, at least in the consumer products space I work in...
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LILI
Doing it backwards. Walking up the downslide.
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Originally posted by asortafairytale: Plus she is always trying to get them to be less nerdy, or making fun of them for being who they are. A lot of times the impression I get from that show is just like "hahah look at how weird nerds are!"
Penny is meant to appeal to the vast "non-nerd" television audience; her entire purpose is to ask what the hell they're talking about so they can explain the nerd jokes without doing an "as you know" sort of setup. I disagree that she's always trying to get them to be less nerdy. She doesn't want to watch Doctor Who with them, but she never says anything like, "You shouldn't watch this show." And there have been episodes where it's shown that she has gained certain amounts of nerdy knowledge, and she agrees to dress up as Wonder Woman for a costume contest at the local comic shop. In the most recent episode, she even grins when he pulls out a lightsaber to function as a light source. (And, to be fair, she gets made fun of for being who she is several times, giving the geeky audience their own "hahah, look how ridiculous non-nerds are!" moments. Sheldon does it the most, but Leonard has taken a few shots himself.) Clearly, Leonard does like her because she's pretty and not because they have a whole lot in common, but that's a dynamic based in reality for plenty of people, and it provides conflict and tension that is also based in the same reality. The relationships between geeks on the show are a bit more stable while Leonard and Penny ride a roller coaster, something I've personally seen in college; geeks do well with geeks, and have a certain amount of tension with non-geeks, even when the relationships are successful. These relationships are also pretty common because geeks make up a small percentage of the population and can't always find a geeky partner, though the internet has made it easier. Anyway, I understand your issues with it, but it's possible that watching a few more episodes would soften those issues somewhat.
<font color="#483d8b"><i> Facts are stubborn things. </i></font>
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Hey, thanks Niki. I won't ever get over losing my boy Gage. You know the breed standard says they live 12-15 years and you always think yours will last 15, but it was over too fast. I got him when he was just over 1 year old and he gave me his all for 11 years.
Gage's passing let me rescue another dog who had been in foster care for almost 4 years. He's a medium sized cattle dog mix, possibly with Shiba Inu, since he's got a lot of orange in his fur. His name is Scout and he's a bit of a hard luck case because he's very defensive of his people and doesn't like children. He gets along with my Pitador just fine and has finally lost interest in the cats, which means the cats rub up on him constantly now.
There's an old Portugese saying that says; If you find a home with neither cat or dog, you have entered the home of a scoundrel.
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At this point I believe that Iran continues spewing this agitprop in order to keep their population focused on the external threat. Getting people all wound up about destroying Israel is not the way to be a good neighbor.
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Thank you for this. 
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AURAPTOR
Three-point, four-hour, should do it.
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This is really a head scratcher, as to why Panetta would go public on any of this.
Is he sending a message to Iran ? Or Israel ?
" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "
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AURAPTOR
Three-point, four-hour, should do it.
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Originally posted by Storymark:
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Storybook - When you say h-care WILL BE less expensive, because of ObamsCare , when it's only gone up since it was passed, isn't a "fact", it's a talking point.
I never said that, nimrod.
It was M5, not you. Corrected, but your remarks got lost in the noise of idiocy that's coming from the Left.
" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "
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HERO
"Ultimately a hero is a man who would argue with the gods, and so awakens devils to contest his vision."- Norman Mailer (1963)
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
This is really a head scratcher, as to why Panetta would go public on any of this.
Is he sending a message to Iran ? Or Israel ?
If the leak was not intentional, its plain incompetence. If it was intentional, its incompetence of a different kind.
But he also revealed the President's plan to flee Afganistan, something they did not plan to announce until late Spring after the proper political groundwork was done.
Two major mistakes in a week, he should resign. Next he'll be blurting out missile codes and the home addresses of Seal Team 6's family.
H
"Hero. I have come to respect you." "I am forced to agree with Hero here."- Chrisisall, 2009. "I agree with Hero." Niki2, 2011.
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AURAPTOR
Three-point, four-hour, should do it.
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I'm not sure I am ready to rubber stamp Panetta in along w/ the other idiots in the Obama administration, simply because of his political affiliation. Panetta, despite who he's worked for ( Clinton, before Obama ) has a rep of being a pretty smart guy. Not just ivory tower, book smarts, but street smarts. Now, I'm not so sure.
Having said that, the troop withdrawal schedule comment, and now this... is rather curious. ( and that's a kind way of saying it sounds bat shit crazy )
And didn't this administration also release locations or some technical details on missiles the Brits have, which we sold them, to the Russians ?
" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "
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AURAPTOR
Three-point, four-hour, should do it.
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Originally posted by BlueHandedMenace: Enjoy life in your bubble. The rest of us will stay out here where words actually mean what they mean, instead of what you would like to interpret them as.
Its clearly no longer worth discussing with you, as you are chewing the same stale soup over and over and hoping it will taste different each time.
As in... " it depends on what the definition of 'IS' is... ? Stuff like that ?

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Thanks to Congress shitting all over the country last summer, hiring has gone back down the tubes, at least in the consumer products space I work in...
Actually, you can thank the Congress under Pelosi, for the passage of O-Care, burdensome cash for clunkers, Recover and Reinvestment Act, Son of TARP, etc... businesses are less likely to invest capitol now if they're gonna be stuck w/ having to pay higher costs across the board down the road.
" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "
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HERO
"Ultimately a hero is a man who would argue with the gods, and so awakens devils to contest his vision."- Norman Mailer (1963)
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I'm Pro Life, but it really makes no difference on this issue.
Was it wrong to cut funding to Planned Parenthood? Maybe yes, maybe no, but it's their funding, their choice who to give it to. My own choice would be to close every Planned Parenthood and convert them to Church-supported Pregnancy/Wellness Centers, but that's just me. I did not know these people funded Planned Parenthood, I don't care, but I will never donate to any charity that funds abortion, so these people are off my list.
But, having done the cut, they needed to stand by the decision. A reversal on this under these conditions is just plain stupid. Now an otherwise worthwhile charity has pissed off pretty much everybody and injected itself into a debate that has nothing to do with their issue. Its not not just some silly little Coke or Pepsi debate, its probably the single most divisive issue between social conservatives and liberals that exists in today's society.
So this whole thing is dumb and the lady responsible needs to retire and all Planned Parenthoods should close down...or maybe not the last part, but it would be a nice bonus.
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"Hero. I have come to respect you." "I am forced to agree with Hero here."- Chrisisall, 2009. "I agree with Hero." Niki2, 2011.
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I'm confused...Ok, so you click on #1 and Mal comes up, but it says #25?? Does that mean we voted him to the top? If so, awesome!
I've never really liked the ranking actors-actresses for mags,ect... Beauty is definitely in the eye of the beholder. One persons list is anothers rubbish...
But yeah, I voted...How could I not?? 
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Yeah, they just waited until this summer so that...
Ah, nevermind. Its the RapTard.
"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"
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AURAPTOR
Three-point, four-hour, should do it.
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Originally posted by Storymark: Yeah, they just waited until this summer so that...
Ah, nevermind. Its the RapTard.
Yes, inane, juvenile insults is all you can come back with.
We got that.
" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "
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KPO
We're two of a kind, we'll find a way...
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And again, in the talking points his own web site takes from the State of the Union address, the only one relating to reducing the deficit is the one about increases taxes on the rich. I suspect that that is by design as well.
Perhaps you're right, but I think you completely misunderstand the administration's purpose here. It's no secret that Obama favours a 'balanced' approach to closing the deficit. Who are the people blocking that? Republicans. So instead of continuing to make the case for a balanced solution Obama has made a tactical switch to attacking and focussing solely on his opponents' unbalanced position. But that's just another way of achieving the same end. It's rhetoric, and I'm guessing you especially don't like it because it turns up the heat on the GOP and their ideological rigidity (and some would say slavish devotion to the rich).
In any case one ambiguous sentence is not enough to start imagining a grand, misinformation campaign.
It's not personal. It's just war.
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Originally posted by Wishimay: I'm confused...Ok, so you click on #1 and Mal comes up, but it says #25??
That's "page 1" of a countdown. Thus their #1 pic is on page 25.
"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"
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KWICKO
Officially the Angriest Man on the Internet™.
Science flies people to the Moon; religion flies people into buildings.
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It's funny, because this happened in less than 3 days, and almost completely due to social media. What's funny about that is that conservatives keep telling me that protests never accomplish anything.
"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill
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Originally posted by PhoenixRose: I can't do 3-D. The tight plastic glasses make my head hurt all by themselves, and then the effect makes me feel dizzy. Old school 3-D with the paper glasses was never a problem for me, but I came out of Avatar with a blinding headache and had to wait for the disorientation to wear off before I could drive home. Not doing that ever again, so hopefully there will be a theater nearby willing to just show the movie without the price-bumped torture.
I heard certain people have noticable problems with viewing 3-D(headaches, dizziness). That is unfortunate. I'm not crazy about it because to me the films seem darker(you are afterall essentially wearing sunglasses) and to be perfectly honest 3-d has never really "wowed" me. My girlfriend loves 3-d though, so I have to watch a film that way once and a while.
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Well Rap, U are welcome to believe whatever you want about why companies arent hiring, but I would have to ask you how many National Account Managers, Directors of Sales, or Directors of Marketing have you spoken to today? In the last week? Month?
I speak to roughly twenty every day, more on the good days. They tell me directly that one of their biggest concerns was the uncertainty caused by the near default we came to last year, and what it might mean for the marketplace going forward.
Before last summer, in my observation hiring had been doing much better. 2009 was a waste of a year for hiring, I might has well not even have come to work, but 2010 was far far better. Companies expanded head counts, and it was similar the first half of 2011.
After the debt ceiling debacle, that all changed. companies started to pull back on their plans again, and often didnt fill spots vacated when people left their companies. It hasnt recovered yet, tho it isnt near as bad as 09 was.
Now no doubt u dont believe republicans had anything to do with the default threat, as you never do, but you will notice I said "Congress" not repubs or conservatives or anything like that.
I blame all of them. So your childish, "Nuh uh it was Pelosi" comeback is a joke.
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We'll tell you how to spend YOUR money, now fork it over 
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Originally posted by Storymark: Yeah, they just waited until this summer so that...
Ah, nevermind. Its the RapTard.
Yes, inane, juvenile insults is all you can come back with.
We got that.
" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "
When responding to inane, wingnut fantasy scenarios like, well - every goddamned thing you post - that's all that is really appropriate.
"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"
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Originally posted by BlueHandedMenace: Well Rap, U are welcome to believe whatever you want about why companies arent hiring, but I would have to ask you how many National Account Managers, Directors of Sales, or Directors of Marketing have you spoken to today? In the last week? Month?
I speak to roughly twenty every day, more on the good days. They tell me directly that one of their biggest concerns was the uncertainty caused by the near default we came to last year, and what it might mean for the marketplace going forward.
Before last summer, in my observation hiring had been doing much better. 2009 was a waste of a year for hiring, I might has well not even have come to work, but 2010 was far far better. Companies expanded head counts, and it was similar the first half of 2011.
After the debt ceiling debacle, that all changed. companies started to pull back on their plans again, and often didnt fill spots vacated when people left their companies. It hasnt recovered yet, tho it isnt near as bad as 09 was.
Now no doubt u dont believe republicans had anything to do with the default threat, as you never do, but you will notice I said "Congress" not repubs or conservatives or anything like that.
I blame all of them. So your childish, "Nuh uh it was Pelosi" comeback is a joke.
Actual knowlegde, facts and experiecne mean nothing to a true beleiver.
"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"
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I can be terse. Once in flight school, I was laconic.
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Heh, nope, but I did discover them at around the same time.
When I go obscure, I go obscure.
Think Buffy meets Sailor Moon.
----- We applied the cortical electrodes but were unable to get a neural reaction from either patient.
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KWICKO
Officially the Angriest Man on the Internet™.
Science flies people to the Moon; religion flies people into buildings.
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I never told Komen how to spend their money; I simply advised them that they would not be spending MY money any more, since I was removing them from my list of charitable donations and vowed to instead give every penny they used to get from me, to Planned Parenthood instead.
Komen, like Mittens Romney, decided to let everyone know that they don't care about poor people. I let Komen know that in that case, I don't care about Komen.
"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill
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KWICKO
Officially the Angriest Man on the Internet™.
Science flies people to the Moon; religion flies people into buildings.
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Originally posted by Kwicko: January 2009: NYSE @ just over 8000.
January 2012: NYSE @ just over 12,700.
According to math, that's "better".
NYSE isn't the economy though. That's a complete red herring, Kwickie.
Hilarious from a chump who kept insisting the economy was "on fire" under Bush, using similar, one-sided indicators.
"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"
Exactly. And that's why I just posted those two sets of numbers. It's good enough for Rappy when he's trying to bolster HIS argument, but nobody else better try to use his same metrics!
Meanwhile, unemployment continues to fall.
"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
It was M5, not you. Corrected, but your remarks got lost in the noise of idiocy that's coming from the Right.
Corrected indeed.
"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"
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KWICKO
Officially the Angriest Man on the Internet™.
Science flies people to the Moon; religion flies people into buildings.
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America, alas, is becoming socialist.
Promise? And also, cites? Evidence? Proof? The poor are getting poorer and the rich are getting richer; the gulf between the two is a gaping chasm, and the middle class is being pushed into the ranks of the poor.
You have odd notions of "socialism", it seems.
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Originally posted by Kwicko: I never told Komen how to spend their money; I simply advised them that they would not be spending MY money any more, since I was removing them from my list of charitable donations and vowed to instead give every penny they used to get from me, to Planned Parenthood instead.
Komen, like Mittens Romney, decided to let everyone know that they don't care about poor people. I let Komen know that in that case, I don't care about Komen.
"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill
I've never given them any money but I know I won't be sending them any $ now, now they have to give Abortions R Us (Planned Parenthood) $ because they have to, not because they want to.
I give to Saint Jude Childrens Hospital and it's run by a left-wing loonatic, (Marlo Thomas) but I know all the $ go to the kids, not to the DNC or RNC or their whores in the MSM.
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Apparently certain crustaceans don't actually age or die unless something eats them first (like a fish, or humans, or a parasite). But unfortunately most of them are delicious.
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But seriously. It's eating a carrot. Look at its little black eye, and try telling me that it isn't just SO HAPPY in that picture.
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KWICKO
Officially the Angriest Man on the Internet™.
Science flies people to the Moon; religion flies people into buildings.
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# 1. Sure, welcome. Play your "hillbilly music" as loud as you'd like; our drum circle will join you! Would you like a beer, or perhaps something stronger? Either way, welcome, and glad you could join us and support our cause!
# 2. Feel free to vote however you'd like. Don't be surprised if some number of our group decides to protest in the wake of your elections, though. Or are you suggesting that such protests should be outlawed? If there were a vote to outlaw the Tea Parties and do away with their gatherings, would you support such a move?
In other words, if democracy had its say, would the teabaggers go along with it?
"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill
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6IXSTRINGJACK
In a closed society where everybody’s guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity.
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Master bedroom prime finished! It looks amazing! There's a huge echo in the room now without any furniture or carpet in there.
I hope to get the hall done by the end of next weekend and then its on to paint.
Anyways... I think I may end up doing a very dark wood color for the floors after seeing a room idea on BenjaminMoore.com that I LOVE. Do you know if there are any pitfalls that come with a dark floor? Also, if I decide that I wanted the dark floor only upstairs and a lighter color for the 1st floor, would it look awkward? Maybe I'd be able to stain the tops of the stairs the dark color while staining the vertical parts of the stairs the lighter color of the 1st floor as a unique transition that ties it all together?
Here's the picture of the bedroom that I loved:

I'm not excited at all about how they've decorated it, but I love the way the wall color works with the trim and the dark floor. The only thing I think I would do different in that regard is to put a slightly darker shaded accent wall behind the bed. What do you think, Wish?
"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." ~Shepherd Book
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Oooh can we take a trip to Revolving Doorland?!!!! A field trip would be soooooooo great right about now!
Congratulations Coz?!

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6IXSTRINGJACK
In a closed society where everybody’s guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity.
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Haha, Caprica.... nope. I'm related to the Six String Samurai though... I'm his less musically talented, Texas Hold'em playing cousin. 
I never saw more than about 3 minutes of the original BSG on reruns when I when I was a kid and said I'd never watch the remake. I hated the original. It was like watching "The Monkees in Space". I'm glad a friend at work turned me on to it though. That close minded mentality could have cost me seeing one of the best shows ever made!
So we're going to be actually talking with him then. Haha.... I'll be even more likely to be on my best behavior then. My fingers sometimes write checks that my mouth can't cash. I'm actually a little nervous about it now, lol. I'm not a celebophile by nature and I've actually never even attended any event where the opportunity to meet and speak with a celebrity would take place. The closest I ever got to a celebrity was shaking John Paxson's hand at my Great Aunt's funeral (from the Chicago Bulls dynasty Era). They lived on the same block.
That... and living vicariously through my family's wild celebrity encounters. My brother worked at Kohl's and Mario Van Peebles showed up to buy some underwear of all things. My mom and step dad were at the Wal-Mart near the touristy town they owned a cottage at and when they asked somebody who worked there why everybody seemed so interested in the tall, long haired guy walking through the store in his bare feet it was because he was Anthony Kedis of the Red Hot Chili Peppers (that story didn't make it into Scar Tissue, but if you read the book you'll probably know what was going on in his head that day).
Looking forward to tomorrow night. Thanks again, ~6
"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." ~Shepherd Book
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AURAPTOR
Three-point, four-hour, should do it.
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Kinda creeps me out. Not use to seeing insect critters that large, outside of a museum. Thing looks like it belongs in the Mesozoic, or even earlier.
ick.
" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "
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SHADOWCAPTAIN
CAPTAIN 平静 TRANQUILITY 平静
Flagship of the 'Virtual Firefly Fleet' and
Sister-ship to Serenity.
..........."God's welcome on My boat....... the Alliance ain't."
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well, you'll have the best celeb story soon.
i'll be opening it up to callers from the chat room after we're [my fellow agents and i] done asking mr. davis all the questions. just remember to be in the chat so you can remind me to "unmute" you when we're ready. - if you aren't in the chat i'll look for your name anyway - all callers names are listed but it will help if you are also in the chat so you can send a message and talk with other philes.
i'll put the info here 1 more time to make it easy;
To listen live and chat (if you want), just go to www.Talkshoe.Com on Feb 4th at 8pm EST, 5pm PST and Enter Call ID 91161 at the top of the page. Then click the “Join call” button.
To call in and ask William B. Davis a question, just call in:
Phone Number: (724) 444-7444 and enter Call ID: 91161# when prompted.
You will need to be in the chat room to be available for us to take your call because callers will be muted to reduce background noise.
(just let us know in chat that you have a question and we’ll “un-mute” you when we’re ready for the next caller).
ok 6, think of some good questions - cant wait to talk to you!
http://xfilestruth.com/
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From Twitter:
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@rationalists: Unemployment hits 3-year low. DOW hits 4-year high. Gay Kenyan atheist Muslim terrorist Socialism is sneaky
"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"
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Originally posted by mai: Oooh can we take a trip to Revolving Doorland?!!!! A field trip would be soooooooo great right about now!
Of course!
When visiting Revolving Doorland be sure to tip the Revolving Doorman. And the Museum of Centripetal Force is a must see destination. Of course some prefer to just wander around in circles.
All vacation packages come with a return ticket.
David
'Begone, sugar-free candy antichrist!' - Nathan Rabin.
'Geeks can't admit that anything worthwhile was invented before 1981. Soon, "making cocoa" will be called "milk hacking."' - Lore Sjoberg
http://xkcd.com/386/
"Don't worry. Captain Hammer will save us." - Penny.
I has myspace - http://www.myspace.com/daveshayneforpresident
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She is funny and her timing was great. Whenever "Once Upon a Time" ends I hope she gets to do comedy. I would like to her in something with humor.
Until then, I will watch her as the evil witch. I have this thing for evil women.
 http://www.imdb.com/mymovies/list?l=28764731 Traveler
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KAREL
Flying on duct tape and a damaged registry.
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Congratulations!
May it be a true connection of souls.
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What Cozen said!
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Thank you!!!! :)
*hugs*wheretheheckhaveyoubeenhidin'?
What mai said!
"Whatever is wrong with you is so right for me." -- Marillion.
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Nick
We don't need to debate the semantics of what constitutes your property because this was all worked out in the 19th c. Anything that impacts your home is your property. That means if the air above your house floats smog into your house, it's affecting your house. If it's in the stratosphere, it's not. Same for water. Under the original law, which was repealed after the civil war to make it easy for industry, it's harmful to your property if it's detectable from your home or land one day of the year.
I don't think the EPA is effective, because I think it's staffed by industry people, like my uncle, who is, sure, very environmentalist, but he's much more industry friendly than I am, or than anyone who isn't in the industry.
As for Obama, I'm not calling Obama a dictator here, I'm thinking that anyone who holds that seat is taking the dictation from TPTB, and writing it down, and then circulating it to congress, meaning I think that POTUS is secretary of the dictatorship I guess. But most of the policies that he has forwarded anyone would have because the job doesn't really account for much freedom, I think they're pretty much told what to do.
Story,
I wasn't here in the 2004 re-election campaign, which would be the most parallel, but I recall the Rap-republicans defending Bush on select points, maybe half the time, and the Geezer-republicans as basically never defending push if they could possibly help it. By contrast I see obama's battered wives defending him on all issues all the time, which is a pretty absurd position. Okay, maybe Bush's gay gop lovers were doing this in 2004, I don't know, I wasn't here, and I have no inclination to go and read the rants.
That's what a ship is, you know - it's not just a keel and a hull and a deck and sails, that's what a ship needs.
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Originally posted by Kwicko:
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Posted by DT:
America, alas, is becoming socialist.
Promise? And also, cites? Evidence? Proof? The poor are getting poorer and the rich are getting richer; the gulf between the two is a gaping chasm, and the middle class is being pushed into the ranks of the poor.
You have odd notions of "socialism", it seems.
Mike, ya ever studied socialism? Wealth inequality is just the beginning. We also already have most of our decisions made by an unelected academic elite. That and the growing portion of the labor force and economy that are in the public sector, our now passing 1% of the population is employed just to beat up the other 99% (police, TSA, DHS, etc.) I think we're pretty well there.
The reason the left doesn't have any good ideas about how to get us out of this mess is because this mess is exactly what they have been jonesing to get us *into* since WWII, this mess is the start of socialism, and it's only going to get messier, until it ends with forced labor camps and death squads, which is where it always ends. Almost everywhere else has already tried this one, and now it's our turn.
Notice the world free market is doing well without us, it's not them that's shooting us down, we're shooting ourselves down.
I'm a firm believer in the ungoverned will of the people, and the more direction you impose on it, the more will of the few ruling elite, the philosopher kings, the worse things will get.
That's what a ship is, you know - it's not just a keel and a hull and a deck and sails, that's what a ship needs.
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Heh. You read mah mind... Seriously, I was thinking something pretty close to that pic (minus the thing at the end of the bed-one more thing to whack yer toes on ) I have no problem with darker floors, but I've only the one room in it, and haven't had it for long- so ask me again in a few years...
I like the idea of tying in the colors on the stairs, I've seen that done badly once and it still looked ok, so with your OCD, I'm sure it'll look perfect 
I vote yes, go for it!!
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ANTHONYT
"Freedom is Important only if People are Important"
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YOU'RE FIRED !
Hello,
I would love to fire our miserable president, but I am having trouble finding viable alternatives.
--Anthony
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"In every war, the state enacts a tax of freedom upon the citizenry. The unspoken promise is that the tax shall be revoked at war's end. Endless war holds no such promise. Hence, Eternal War is Eternal Slavery." --Admiral Robert J. Henner
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Can you imagine going down to yer basement in the middle of the night to find out what's making the noise AND FINDING THAT?!!!
I would shat myself ta death...then...
Reba McEntire from "Tremors" comes ta mind...

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SIGNYM
You speak of 'the young, the old, the sick' as if they're an endangered species- ....AND... Freedom fails is if it's oppressed and crushed, by pure democracy-Rappy
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Not true, DT. You don't know "the left".
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<font color=#9999CC><font face="Comic Sans MS">The blindness, the bald-faced prejudiced ignorance, is astonishing.
3% of what Planned Parenthood does is abortions--NONE OF IT FUNDED by anything but direct donations (NOT GRANTS) to Planned Parenthood. There is no connection.
The other 97% of what Planned Parenthood does is women's health services for those who cannot afford them; cancer screenings, etc., for women who would otherwise have no way of receiving that healthcare. You know, the poor Mittens doesn't care about because there's plenty of "safety nets". This is one of them.
The "otherwise worthwhile charity" CAUSED the ruckus, nobody else. They supposedly represent the fight against cancer in women; Planned Parenthood is the single largest provider of cancer screenings for the poor. Of COURSE it pissed everyone off; people have given money, done marathons, worn pink ribbons, all in support of Komen with the understanding that Komen, along with them, cared about breast cancer. To use the money donated to them as a political ploy to defund PP was bound to piss everyone off.
Also, it's one woman with an agenda who caused all this, otherwise it never would have happened. There have been RESIGNATIONS within Komen because of her actions, Congresspeople signing a petition to have them reconsider, and Planned Parenthood has received almost enough in donations to make up for the loss (which is GREAT, now that Komen has decided to give them the grant, too!). Komen had no problem giving the regular grant to PP...it's Karen Handel being hired as "Senior V.P. for Public Policy" which put the power in Handel's hands to play politics.
It's hysterical that people who've never donated to Komen are just (huff, huff) absolutely SURE they'll never given them any money NOW (puff, puff)!!! Ye gads.

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CHRISISALL
"Over the years you have slurred the meaning of the words, WE...THE...PEOPLE"
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Only crazy peeps fly stuff.
 The laughing Chrisisall
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<font color=#9999CC><font face="Comic Sans MS">I know full well there are those who will forever tightly clutch their treasured, ugly prejudices to their chests and who would rather die than even READ the facts, much less acknowledge them, but for those among us who give a shit about other human beings, I provide some facts:Quote:
...the backlash has been powerful, particularly among the many professional women who until now have valued and supported both charities and suddenly feel betrayed. And on Thursday night, the San Francisco Bay Area affiliate of Susan G. Komen for the Cure joined with six other Komen affiliates in California in eloquently opposing the national organization's decision. These voices, and the financial support they represent, need to remain strong on behalf of the women with no health insurance whose care makes up 97 percent of Planned Parenthood's work -- a fact often drowned out by the political static over the 3 percent involving abortions.
Komen gave Planned Parenthood almost $700,000 in 2011 to provide poor women with breast cancer screenings who otherwise would not have received them. About 170,000 women benefitted.
In 2010, Komen CEO Nancy Brinker, sister of the late Susan G. Komen {a major Republican donor} hired Karen Handel as senior vice president for public policy. When Handel ran for governor of Georgia, she won Sarah Palin's support by describing herself as "staunchly and unequivocally pro-life."
At Komen, she launched a full review of grants and declared a policy of denying funding to any organization under investigation by federal, state or local authorities. Imagine how shocked, shocked, she was when Florida Rep. Cliff Stearns soon after announced a congressional investigation of Planned Parenthood.
This is the same Stearns who was ridiculed this past spring for filing an amendment that forces all 9/11 first responders requesting compensation for injuries to first be checked against the terrorist watch list to make sure they're not terrorists. The Stearns whose stated goal is to strip Planned Parenthood of all federal funding, "now and forever," even though the Hyde Amendment already prohibits federal funding from being used for abortions.
Planned Parenthood has meticulously kept any federal dollars as well as Komen grants separate from these services. The Health and Human Services inspector general and state Medicaid programs routinely conduct audits of Planned Parenthood. The findings are a matter of public record. The congressional investigation is purely a political tool to cut health care for poor women.
Both Komen and Planned Parenthood over the years have saved lives and helped women who had no place else to turn for care. What a tragedy that right-wing politics has intervened in what should be common cause. http://www.mercurynews.com/opinion/ci_19879960
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To many people, breast cancer screening means a mammogram. But for millions of poor, mostly young, women who visit Planned Parenthood, it is usually just a physical exam by the only health professional they may ever see.
Those clinical breast exams are controversial — government advisers don’t endorse them. Yet for some, this simple exam has helped spot breast cancer. And Susan G. Komen for the Cure isn’t the only group paying Planned Parenthood to do them — the government does, too. Komen actually funds relatively few.
Surprises like these are emerging about both groups in the dustup over Komen’s decision to bar Planned Parenthood from future grants because of a probe spurred by anti-abortion groups. The decision was reversed on Friday after a huge backlash, with critics saying Komen was hurting the very women it aims to serve.
They are women such as Tina Love, an independent filmmaker in Santa Barbara, Calif., whose sister-in-law is famed breast surgeon Dr. Susan Love. Four years ago, when she was 41, Tina Love went to a Planned Parenthood clinic in Santa Barbara.
“I had a lump and I didn’t have health insurance,” she explained. The agency sent her for a free mammogram, which led to her cancer being diagnosed and treated.
It’s not known exactly how many cancers Planned Parenthood has found. But just last June, Komen said screenings it paid for caught 177 cancers over the last five years.
Some things you may not know about Planned Parenthood:
— Most of its services — 71 percent — are for birth control and testing and treatment of sexually transmitted diseases. Abortions made up 3 percent of its services in 2010. Cancer screening accounted for about 15 percent.
- Planned Parenthood does a physical breast exam on any woman of any age as part of a regular physical, and refers for mammograms any women 40 and older.
— Komen paid for just 170,000 of the more than 4 million clinical breast exams Planned Parenthood performed nationwide over the last five years, and just 6,400 of Planned Parenthood’s 70,000 mammography referrals in that time.
— The government has long paid Planned Parenthood for services related to cancer and sexually transmitted diseases. The group gets federal and state money for breast cancer screening service through a program for poor and uninsured women.
In women who may not see other doctors, “we are encouraging breast self-awareness” so that if a lump is found, they’ll seek help, Dr. Vanessa Cullins, a vice president with Planned Parenthood Federation of America, said.
It worked for Michele Azzaro, 45, of Dallas, who first went to Planned Parenthood when she found a lump back in her 20s. It turned out not to be cancerous, and a mammogram provided through Planned Parenthood ruled out cancer again last year.
Azzaro is unemployed and has no insurance, and has relied on Planned Parenthood for cholesterol tests and pretty much all her medical needs for more than two decades.
“Without having their services, I honestly don’t know what I would do,” she said. “I’m grateful they’ve been there for me and millions of other women like me.” http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/surprises-in-komen-planned-parenthood-dustup-how-cancer-screening-is-done-and-who-pays-for-it/2012/02/03/gIQAUdWpnQ_story.html?tid=pm_national_pop[/quote]

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<font color=#9999CC><font face="Comic Sans MS">What Rap said. And to "ick" I'll add "shudder"!
(Damn...if we stayed on the subject of animals we might actually LIKE one anoth....
...naw, never happen. ;o)

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<font color=#9999CC><font face="Comic Sans MS">Rattle those sabres! Hopefully what it is; "get it in the conversation so we can make it reeeeely clear to Israel that we don't want 'em doin' this, dammit!" and maybe some of getting Americans both riled up and fearful, so maybe Israel will think twice? Just guessin'.

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<font color=#9999CC><font face="Comic Sans MS">Ooo, I like the Portugese saying; right on!
I loooove Shibas...Rap put up a link to a litter a while back and it got me curious; I looked 'em up and they sound really cool; plus by now I've met a good number of them at dog parks and on Crissy Field and they ARE really cool (actually have a lot in common with huskies).
Scout is very lucky. Dogs with problems like those usually end up not finding a forever home. We may disagree massively here, but it's obvious what kind of person you are when it comes to animals, so once again: The dog reflects the owner. In other words, ive him time; he's already cool with cats, bet he gets better and better over time.
We've never gotten one past 14...but almost all of them DID make 14, thank goodness. Given we've always had medium-to-large dogs, that's probably the best we can hope for. I'm grateful.
My current two guys are our first foray into full huskies, and they're more than worth EVERY bit of frustration, anger and insanity they cause. They make us laugh constantly...never before have I ever had dogs that make us laugh so much. Jim (hubby) complains about them incessantly...then lays on the very edge of his bed rather than shove them aside (and two huskies take up a LOT of bed!), never fails to save half a bagel to share with them for breakfast when I beg him not to give them treats, lets them in the kitchen when they're NOT permitted in there, talks to them like they're people, and tho' he's a somewhat dour person, they make him laugh a LOT. There could not be a bigger blessing.
And, like you, we'll never forget Kiya (shephard/husky). I named her Keine Trane Mehr as I drove across the Richmond Bridge to the Oakland SPCA because I knew I was going to take one of the pups. It means "no more tears" in German (all my dogs have had foreign names), because we'd just lost our last two dogs--hard--within six months of one another. I won't share the details.
My motto: A cat is a luxury, but a DOG is a NECESSITY! I miss not having a cat around (we've had up to 8 strays/rescues at one time), but they don't do well with huskies...So I'll take the huskies, thank you.

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<font color=#9999CC><font face="Comic Sans MS">What Anthony said. In spades.
Story...I HAVE to share that quote, it's hysterical!

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<font color=#9999CC><font face="Comic Sans MS">Yeah, he did it again, and everyone's calling it a gaffe. But it's not. What's not being discussed, for the most part, is that he actually DOESN'T care about the very poor, to the point where he has no intention of "repairing" the safety net he mentions, his intent is to rip it to shreds:Quote:
-- "I'm not concerned about the very poor." Oops. Mitt Romney messed up. Again. This was a bigger "oops moment" for Romney than when he said a few weeks ago that the $374,327 he earned in speakers' fees over the course of 12 months amounted to "not very much." It was bigger than "I like being able to fire people." It was the biggest since he blurted out that corporations are people, my friend" at the Iowa State Fair.
But what is far more puzzling is the reason Romney gave CNN's Soledad O'Brien for what sounded very much like callous disregard for the poorest Americans. "I'm not concerned about the very poor," he said. "We have a safety net there. If it needs a repair, I'll fix it."
Actually, if you look at Romney's policy agenda, you will see that "fixing it" could not be further from his plan, unless it's doublespeak for "eviscerating it." Romney calls for immediate across-the-board cuts in nonsecurity discretionary spending. That would mean slashing the budget for many of the programs that comprise our safety net, by 5%, according to his spending proposal. These cuts would come on top of the 17% cut already affected by this summer's Budget Control Act.
Further, according to analysis from the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, his proposals to cap total spending at 20% of gross domestic product, along with increasing already bloated military spending, cutting taxes and pursuing a balanced budget, would necessitate enormous cuts to vital programs. "The cuts would measure 21% in 2016 and 36% in 2021," the center said. "If policymakers exempted Social Security from the cuts and then cut all other nondefense programs by the same percentage, the cuts would rise to 30% in 2016 and 54% in 2021."
Funding could all be gutted that helps low-income students afford college with Pell grants, enables low-income women and their children to eat a more nutritious diet, covers the cost of the highly successful Head Start early-education program and pays for job training, housing assistance and veterans' health care.
In short, Romney's plan would incinerate the very safety net that he claims to be his excuse for expressing no interest in addressing the needs of the "very poor." Oh, and how poor are the poorest 5% or 10% of Americans he seemed to be referring to, exactly? Even the census, which tracks household income for all Americans, doesn't say with precision, although it does note that households with annual income of $15,000 or less made up 13.7% of our population in 2010. I don't know about you, but I'm concerned about them.
If Romney's lack of concern about the very poor came with a real plan indeed to fix a tattered safety net so that poverty rates could begin to decrease, he might be less vulnerable to the charge of being out of touch with voters. But as long as his gaffes and policy prescriptions continue to belie either a lack of understanding of the economic plight of Americans or a cynical political calculation that both ignores and will exacerbate that plight, Romney will go the way of his fellow "oops"-prone 2012 presidential candidate. http://www.cnn.com/2012/02/02/opinion/dolan-romney-poor/index.html
Ay-yup!
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